Comments | researchgrrrl: Angels, Intelligences, Spirits, and Planetary Talismans: or, Why I Am Now and Forever SPN's Bitch

researchgrrrl

Angels, Intelligences, Spirits, and Planetary Talismans: or, Why I Am Now and Forever SPN's Bitch

Sep 30, 2006 20:54

ETA that I elaborated a bit more on what I understand about planetary talismans (in a John-specific way) here. Better and better-informed minds than mine may well be able to improve upon this.

I have HOUSE meta to write and HOUSE-related comments to answer. I have my Grim Noir Grimoire (my chatty little guide to SPN herbs and hoo-doo) to wrap up ( Read more... )

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spatz October 1 2006, 01:57:57 UTC

Dude. This isn't helping my Kim/Google OTP *at all*.

*drools over mystic symbology*

researchgrrrl October 1 2006, 02:05:36 UTC

Wow. What a horrible reality to face...that, yeah, a search engine is my SO. *facepalm*

Glad you got a kick out of this. *g*

spatz October 1 2006, 02:31:28 UTC

Oh, but your... *ahem* bonding sessions produce such sweet, sweet fruits ;)

researchgrrrl October 1 2006, 16:04:43 UTC

Minxy little pervert.

*gropes you*

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amchara October 1 2006, 02:05:46 UTC

Wow.

*bows to your incredible researching skills*

How much fun would it be to work as a writer/researcher for SPN?

So does this mean that John probably isn't dead? Just in hell, maybe?

researchgrrrl October 1 2006, 03:15:17 UTC

I would have a blast being able to neep away for SPN canon. I'd probably never be allowed to write for the show, given my tendency to try to get the guys flusterd and naked for appalling (albeit PLOT-RELATED) purposes.

Although, that said, I did dream last night that I went with a group of friends to watch an ep of SPN being filmed and JP ended up with a crush on me. *g* In the same fantastically plotty dream, while JP was off to film a movie, I had to travel with George Clooney. He held the plane for me because I was running late, and the vodka and chocolates we had on the flight were divine.

Apparently? My brain has decided to celebrate recent good news on all sorts of levels. :D

I'm not sure yet about whether John is dead. They made a point of saying that a reaper who comes for natural reasons cannot be turned back. That suggests to me that because John was taken supernaturally, he may well be able to return. Plus, Sam's youth and vulnerability were amazingly underscored, which suggests that we'll be seeing him mature ( ... )

amchara October 1 2006, 03:47:39 UTC

I'd probably never be allowed to write for the show, given my tendency to try to get the guys flusterd and naked for appalling (albeit PLOT-RELATED) purposes.But if you were sneaky and tried to use your neep for nefarious purposes? Say, oh, I don't know- some kind of ritual that the boys needed to carry out, and involved nakedness. I'm sure you could think of something ( ... )

dotfic October 1 2006, 02:05:57 UTC

Okay. So if John used the symbol for Cassiel's aspect of Saturn, and Agiel and Zazel are also aspects of Saturn but he didn't actually draw those symbols, do the attributes of Zazel and Agiel still come into play? Because by using Saturn's main symbol, he's using all of Saturn? I want to make sure I'm understanding this...because...

Because my breath caught, literally, at the Zazel part. NOT DEAD JUST RESTING! HE'LL BE BACK. *SQUEEE*

This is tasty research. So over my head, but tasty and a joy to read.

researchgrrrl October 1 2006, 04:53:58 UTC

I have one friend who actually has made a life's study on these subjects, so I'm going to bounce your question to her for a definitive answer. I'm still learning. What I think is most significant about John using the sign for the Character of Saturn is that it perfectly balances between life and death, much as we saw Dean framed between the EXIT and OBSTETRICS signs in the opening shot ( ... )

dodger_winslow October 1 2006, 05:00:21 UTC

that it perfectly balances between life and death, much as we saw Dean framed between the EXIT and OBSTETRICS signs in the opening shot.

SQUEEEEEEEEEEE! That was my favorite shot of the whole show! For exactly that reason (well, the whole "caught between life and death" thing, not the Character of Saturn thing, cause I'd be lying out my ass if I tried to pass off knowing any of that shit before you started your masters class in SPNology.)

dotfic October 1 2006, 15:05:29 UTC

it perfectly balances between life and death, much as we saw Dean framed between the EXIT and OBSTETRICS signs in the opening shot.

Whoa. I totally missed the thing with the signs. *keyboardmash* So love this show. So much. Kim Manners brings it.

But if he doesn't do the markings in order to control it, does that mean those aspects will still aid him or be present in the spell?

I really, really want to be sure about this before I get all fangirly about OMG HE'LL BE BACK.

I want to believe. *g*

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aillychan October 1 2006, 02:07:58 UTC

Would you consider submitting this to the Super-Wiki? The research you put into this is absolutely mind-boggling.

(Also, hi! Random visitor from fflist, here.)

researchgrrrl October 1 2006, 05:01:37 UTC

Hi! Welcome! And, yeah, I'd be happy to tidy this up into something presentable for the Super-Wiki. That'd be my pleasure. *g* I spent just a little over three hours total on this, to be honest, so I can elaborate and polish it a bit (and also excise the references to my lack of a sex life) to make this a proper entry. Do I contact you, or what when it's ready?

Great to meet you, btw. Feel free to swing by any time. Cheers!

bitchtude October 1 2006, 02:09:43 UTC

Wow. Just. Freakin'. WOW!

It's gonna take me time to digest this all but awesome work!!

researchgrrrl October 1 2006, 05:04:55 UTC

Hey, glad you moseyed through and checked this out. I had a great time pulling this together, so I'm happy to hear you had fun reading it. FWIW, I've elaborated a bit more on the planetary talisman stuff here that may help clarify things a bit. *squints* Maybe. Possibly. Erm. Hopefully.

At any rate, great to meet you. Cheers!