Tomorrow is less than a day away

[rahirah]

Tomorrow I have to go over to Mom's and stand around while the Registrar of Contractors inspects some shoddy porch railings she's made a complaint about. Once that's over, I intend to drop my car off at the mechanics', where hopefully they will discover what's making the 'check engine' light come on, and hopefully it will not require a small

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[elisi]

I knew a number of Spuffy writers who got disillusioned and left the fandom during S6. The ugliness going on between the characters on screen killed their desire to write the characters at all, in any context.
You know I find this fascinating, since it's the 'ugliness' - the hopelessly complicated mess that they created - that really drew me to the pairing. Almost all my fic (certainly my shippy stuff) is set post Chosen/NFA, because without their specific history the pairing's just not *my* Spike and Buffy.

(That said, I think it perfectly possible to spin them away at any point. That's the fun of them - that they're such well-developed characters that it *is* possible to change their story. I just happen to love canon!)

[rahirah]

Well, the thing is, I only ship characters under very specific circumstances, and one of those circumstances is that I think the two of them are, overall, good for one another. I can see canon Spuffy as a very interesting story. But when two characters do nothing but hurt each other and miscommunicate, I can't root for them to end up together.

[elisi]

I've been thinking about this, and while it is obvious that Spike and Buffy hurt each other a great deal throughout S6, I don't think that, overall, they're bad for each other. In S6 the circumstances dictate a lot (her depression, his soullessness), but once they get away from those obstacles (and deal with the lingering issues) I think they do each other a world of good! ('Touched' would probably be the most obvious example.)

[rahirah]

Mmm, yeah, and you know my opinion on the aftermath of Touched. *g*

[timeofchange]

(Whose idea was it, I wonder, to make a warning indicator which might signify anything from "You are a trifle low on wiper fluid," to "your engine is about to explode?")

Hahahaha. Yes. My old auto did this for several years, despite repeated visits to various car doctors. *stabs Ford*

[rahirah]

This has been going on for over a year, so I'm betting the engine won't fall out. But still...

[ljs]

Good thoughts for the porch issue, the evil-car-engine-light, and the fic-wibblings. [hugs hugs]

[rahirah]

:D

[kitmarlowescot2]

Ohh, bad contractors. Not on the good at all.
I had my annual three day local anime con. And as usual I slept little and went all day and night. Not just at the con but at home.
Japanese Rope arts were a big thing this year and I actually made it to their panels. Have you ever seen anything like that ? Or thought of using it with Spike ? Somehow I see Spike tied up more than Buffy. Not just as a sexual experince but as actual art ? The knots, wraps, color of the rope vs skin, with kimono's etc.

[rahirah]

I think they're both way too impatient to get into something like that...

[kitmarlowescot2]

I don't know. The guy who did it showed some intresting ways you can get tied up within ten minutes or so. And Buffy could learn some new methods, using Hojojutsu of catching demons and tying them before she kills them.

[shapinglight]

I'm afraid I'm with Elisi really. I would probably never have written Spuffy at all if not for season 6/7. My whole fic writing relationship with that 'ship is trying to figure it out post AR.

However, that doesn't mean there aren't hundreds of moments where the story could have gone in a completely different direction, and the direction you've pursued is as valid as any surely?

[rahirah]

Is it?

It depends on what criteria one judges validity by, I think.

[shapinglight]

I suppose so, but then what criteria are you judging it by?

[rahirah]

"Is there a reasonable probability that the characters as established at Point X in canon might behave this way, given this set of circumstances?"

If the answer to that is 'No,' then everything I write is... dishonest.