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reposted from Kenny's journal - Tim Kinsella being awesome

Oct 02, 2006 11:19

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nom_de_grr October 2 2006, 17:55:48 UTC

In short, I am asking that every band that appeared in the August 2006 issue of Alternative Press break up.

That was a great punchline in an essay full of good zingers. The endorsement of mass suicide as a statement of cultural contrition was also entertaining, but I'm not sure the word "movement" can be applied to manufactured/co-opted music.

Funny stuff!

anonymous October 2 2006, 18:02:07 UTC

Finally someone has the guts to call out Hawthorne Heights, not only for being a shitty band, but for being the cause of corrupt government. It's about time some courageous rebel finally said what we've all been thinking.

-Mont

nom_de_grr October 2 2006, 18:07:43 UTC

Haha! Underoath runs the IMF and destroys indigenous cultures with their neoliberal policies!

anonymous October 2 2006, 18:24:49 UTC

I wouldn't say that in public if I were you... My Chemical Romance might send one of their paramilitary death squads to track you down...

I think a return to the big band/swing/jazz music of the late 30's and early 40's would be a solution, not only because the music is better but because that was, after all, such a docile and almost utopian geopolitical environment.

-Mont

nom_de_grr October 2 2006, 18:41:42 UTC

Good point! But I suggest we go with something even MORE politically retrograde! What sort of music did the Borgia family listen to? The lute? Hammered dulcimer? That shit is my jam.

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yourexallxscum October 2 2006, 19:05:23 UTC

i believe the issue he was referring to was one with underoath on the cover, not that it really matters because that magazine features the same like 15-20 bands every issue.

also just for the record, i probably like quite a few bands featured in said magazine, i just thought this was hilarious.

colorme420 October 2 2006, 20:24:44 UTC

That cliche, "you vote with your dollar" is true in any capitalist society. Stop buying/reading AP. And, Tim K, stop -- for the love of everything holy -- passing off your elitist (dare I say 'scene') humor as relevant political satire.

Suggesting that Hawthorne Heights is responsible for the recent Pac-Sun stock increase might have been funny. Suggesting that Underoath is secretly involved in a terrorist plot to poison our hardcore scenes with progressively poppier music might have even been funny. But suggesting that any of these bands, or the collective of them present in AP, is to blame for a corrupt government is just distasteful.

Besides, we already know that blame should be placed squarely on the heads of Masonic secrety societies.

radicalcheer October 2 2006, 21:01:51 UTC

The article is talking primarilly about politics, not government. Politics *of the government* is barely an incidental detail in the article. The cited AP featured musicians' effect on politics and culture are its main concerns ( ... )

_silverspoons October 3 2006, 00:04:25 UTC

I don't understand why Tim thinks all of this is new ( ... )

colorme420 October 3 2006, 21:30:00 UTC

My retort wasn't designed to be considered sincere after the first paragraph. No, the essay isn't primarily about government; I was riffing off of Ryan's reply. But it does involve the consumer, albeit implicitly ( ... )

_silverspoons October 3 2006, 00:12:57 UTC

p.s. another thing that really bothered me about this essay is Kinsella's argument that we are somehow having our empathy deadened by overly emotional music...

that sort of idea is just ridiculous. for music to truly move people, it has to be brilliant. very few people can sit and listen to one of chopin's nocturnes and not have some sort of emotional response...

I just don't see anyone sitting down with their ipods and having a visceral response to the new underoath album. (sorry to pick on you guys, but I really haven't been keeping up with my shitty music)

there is nothing to fear from these bands because they exist solely to appeal to people who are simply not thinking critically about music. theirs is a world of product, not of artistic expression.

to me, this essays seems almost like a "modest proposal" the idea of every shitty band just breaking up is utterly ridiculous, and I am sure the author knows this...it just seems to me that at the heart of his argument, his logic is sort of flawed...