The problem is people. Yep. As Omar would put it, it's all a game. Just different players. But they are all still people.
I just finished season 1 of Mad Men last weekend. I'm more concerned about watching Peggy. But I would like to see what happens with Betty too. I don't care much about Don. I want to know what happens to the women!
That would be funny about the ban on cigarettes on TV! Maybe!
To me there's a difference between emotional investment and looking forward to a character's storyline, you know? Like, I can handle a wider range of stuff happening for Don as long as I'm intellectually satisfied with the story, but I think it would be really depressing to see a sad ending for Betty or Joan.
I'm halfway through season five of The Wire, but yeah. One of the things that I find interesting is the way the (SPOILER) Clay Davis stuff is playing out, because I think it's pretty clear that Davis is just the most extreme form of the central problem, and not exactly a guy who invented political corruption
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I think it's pretty clear that Davis is just the most extreme form of the central problem, and not exactly a guy who invented political corruption.
Yes! I liked the Davis thing a lot too. I don't even...possibly this is my own cynicism showing, but whatever...I didn't feel like he was even particularly extreme? He just has the brassest set of balls, and so he is more openly and personally involved than one would usually expect.
It's interesting that the only person on BSG who actually seems to really like politics is Zarek. Well, actually, Lee kind of seems to like it, too, and I get the impression Felix would have liked it under different circumstances.Felix! You're right, too, he would've been a world-class policy wonk
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OMG THE ENDING TO SEASON SIX FOR DON. I am really excited about what the next season entails for him. I kind of agree that Don will probably never become a "good person," but I think that in a lot of ways that is not really the point? I mean, one thing that I think is really important is that in an imperfect world, where options for actually being a decent person are actually sometimes not always all that clear, finding a way to find peace with yourself and not to put other people down is *itself* a worthwhile goal, and I think Don is making real progress on that.Great point. I loved the end of S6 for Don, after being disappointed by S5. I'm way more sympathetic to Don than I oughta be! I think he needed the shake-up of being way too honest in his pitch to Hershey and getting booted out SC 2.0 to make a change. IMO, Don's whole process of breaking out poverty and abuse and the Korean War demanded artifice, coldness, a lack of fidelity to family. mendaciousness and ambition on steroids. If Don was a little more honest, a little more
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YES, exactly! Don is a creature of his own inner aptitudes, and that is precisely the problem for everyone around him. And yet...I really felt for him by the end of S6, because for once he was the one spiraling.
I know I'm late on my Sopranos entry for you. I'm still thinking it through! But it's on my mind! I love The Sopranos and I've seen it all through twice and some episodes even more but I haven't thought deeply about the show even though it deserves all the deep thoughts
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lol, no worries, I am here for Sopranos talk if/whenever you feel like it!
I rewatched several long stretches of the show last month, and a lot of the stuff you're mentioning is similar to my most recent impressions. I love the show overall, but this problem is a big one. I did wonder how much the S3/4 focus on military operations was about...just, How Things Were right after 9/11, particularly in terms of political media.
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Yep. As Omar would put it, it's all a game. Just different players. But they are all still people.
I just finished season 1 of Mad Men last weekend. I'm more concerned about watching Peggy. But I would like to see what happens with Betty too. I don't care much about Don. I want to know what happens to the women!
That would be funny about the ban on cigarettes on TV! Maybe!
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Now I really want to skip to season 6. :-)
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As long as Betty gets a happy/good ending, I will accept anything.
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But yeah, I feel like actual psychological growth for Don has really been earned in a way I wasn't expecting for most of the show.
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Yes! I liked the Davis thing a lot too. I don't even...possibly this is my own cynicism showing, but whatever...I didn't feel like he was even particularly extreme? He just has the brassest set of balls, and so he is more openly and personally involved than one would usually expect.
It's interesting that the only person on BSG who actually seems to really like politics is Zarek. Well, actually, Lee kind of seems to like it, too, and I get the impression Felix would have liked it under different circumstances.Felix! You're right, too, he would've been a world-class policy wonk ( ... )
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I rewatched several long stretches of the show last month, and a lot of the stuff you're mentioning is similar to my most recent impressions. I love the show overall, but this problem is a big one. I did wonder how much the S3/4 focus on military operations was about...just, How Things Were right after 9/11, particularly in terms of political media.
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