Parent Licenses

Oct 05, 2005 16:44

Well, the moment has finally come, and I don't know how I feel about it.

Republican lawmakers are drafting new legislation that will make marriage a requirement for motherhood in the state of Indiana, including specific criminal penalties for unmarried women who do become pregnant "by means other than sexual intercourse ( Read more... )

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aaron_omnislash October 5 2005, 22:14:05 UTC
I've only read The Mote in God's Eye (so yeah, I caught it), but I didn't find it particularly fascinating. That was a long time ago, though, so maybe whenever I get around to rereading it I might like it more.

Oh wait, I read Ringworld and that was neat. It felt really dated but it was good.

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pavel_lishin October 5 2005, 22:43:02 UTC
I didn't like all the politics, etc., in Mote, so I didn't like it the first time through, but stayed with it because the aliens Niven designed were fantastic. The second, third, fourth time around, I liked it a lot more.

And yeah, Ringworld was good. Actually, just about every Known Space story is good, but I didn't like the 3rd Ringworld novel - too many fucking characters, they hunted vampires through half the book, and I didn't really give a shit about vampires. Bah. When I see a "cast of characters" in the beginning of a book, I automatically assume that I'll probably hate it.

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aaron_omnislash October 6 2005, 15:41:36 UTC
I started the 3rd Ringworld and said 'fuck this', it felt like some self-congratulatory backpat. The other 2 though were good.

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pavel_lishin October 6 2005, 16:31:36 UTC
It didn't feel that way to be, but it did suck total ass.

I think I'm just going to skip 3/4ths of it, and read the ending, so I can try the fourth book.

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with_my_pistola October 5 2005, 22:35:31 UTC
oh gawd those were grooooosssssss pics!

I trust republicans as far as I can throw them and believe me, I throw them often to evaluate the exact distances.

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pavel_lishin October 5 2005, 22:44:11 UTC
I hate to be so partisan, but since nearly every republican is a social conservative, I pretty much hate them all.

Note that being republican and voting republican are two different things - a very good friend of mine (who I hope will leave a big, long comment that will escalate into some sort of debate) is financially conservative, so he votes republican on a bunch of stuff, and we all kick him in the balls for it. I don't know anything about economics, so I just vote for whoever has the coolest sounding name.

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bretthoerner October 5 2005, 22:55:43 UTC
Scott is a hick lols.

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pbaseball24 October 6 2005, 20:25:47 UTC
And proud of it, nigger!

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musexsymbol07 October 5 2005, 22:58:36 UTC
Where in the hell did you find that journal entry..... I almost puked.

And I STILL can't figure out what was wrong with that chick that she had to shit everywhere. Can someone tell me???

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pavel_lishin October 5 2005, 23:07:33 UTC
She was fat.

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musexsymbol07 October 5 2005, 23:21:38 UTC
That sounds... bad.

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jerseygrits October 5 2005, 23:11:33 UTC
I'm trying to make sure I understand this correctly...so you wouldn't be allowed to have kids through artificial insemination at all unless you were married?

Can you post the link to the original article?

And one argument for screening for adoption and not birth that comes to mind is that you can screen for adoption, so why not? You can't control people getting pregnant or not. It is pretty weird to think about, though. But in our society you have a lot of sway as a "biological parent." And if you are going to allow people to take in a child that isn't their own, you should probably be careful about it even if you can't control people giving birth in the first place.

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jerseygrits October 5 2005, 23:13:31 UTC
Well, you definitely can't control people getting pregnant through fucking.

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eazyt October 6 2005, 05:53:36 UTC
why the hell not?

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jerseygrits October 6 2005, 06:15:04 UTC
Uhh...I already read your comment above, so I know where you stand on this issue and I'm not going to go there.

But I was referring to the comment I posted first, in which I explained why screening for adoption but not birth makes sense. You can't control people getting pregnant through fucking in the sense that you can control who adopts. It doesn't have anything to do with what any of us think should be. Right now, that's how it is. I think you know what I meant.

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duxwig October 5 2005, 23:15:43 UTC
The most ridiculous thing I've heard this week.

This isnt fucking china.

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pavel_lishin October 6 2005, 00:08:14 UTC
So you're saying that as long as we don't have a population problem, there should be no limits on reproduction?

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eazyt October 6 2005, 05:54:25 UTC
sounds like he has a couple of "daddies little squirt"s out there

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