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ostia January 23 2009, 07:25:13 UTC
I knew you'd answer, at all if not first in line. It's one of the things I like about you. 8)

So you don't think there's anything after we kill over, huh? I'm not sure I follow you on the "Einsteinian, nature-centric, universe-oriented sense" though, sorry. Science!God?

Why do most people I read about wonder these things when they get dumped by a girlfriend of 3 years, or have a loved one die 'before their time'? I've wondered about it since I was 7 or so, crying alone at night scared to death of my family and friends dying if I didn't pray for each and every one of them. As well, reading Transmetropolitan and listening to Sleeping With Ghosts. Great shit- I love this band and I am loving this comic.

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ostia January 23 2009, 07:48:05 UTC
Explaining is more than fine! I've been out of school for almost 2 years now, was never very bright to begin with and am getting duller every day, so it's all good. A wiki link is fine too. :)

I didn't know that about him. You learn something everyday.

What can I say? I was young, they'd packed me off to a sunday school group, and put the fear of hellfire and brimstone in me. Plus, it was a step up from watching family members as they slept.

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bycitylights January 23 2009, 07:30:21 UTC
I'm more or less indifferent to the idea of God. I respect people's belief or need to believe in a God to get through their lives, but I'm not much for religion in general. I used to like going to youth groups and the like, though, just to see people's rigorous amounts of faith. I went to a primarily black church, as well, once, and had a lot of fun just being caught up in the moment. But over all, I don't really believe in one. Should their happen to be one, then so be it, but I'm happy living my life without taking Him into account ( ... )

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ostia January 23 2009, 08:17:21 UTC
It's fun seeing people so caught up in believing something beyond them, yeah. I like how positive they are.

You don't find it boring at all? Thousands of years of the same old, be successful, find husband/wife/partner make babies/grow old together?

I agree, we get one chance to live so might as well enjoy ourselves. 8) Any thoughts on why people try so hard though, when it's really as simple as that?

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bycitylights January 23 2009, 13:40:21 UTC
I don't find it boring just because I'm not living all those other lives, you know? This is my own life, my own experiences, my own ways to go about things. Even if someone has gone about the same exact way as I have, it's still my own, and not someone else's, you know? I can't be bored with something I haven't fully experienced before.

I don't know. People get caught up in the whole success side of things that they're unable to focus on themselves and their inner needs, I think. But, I'm the kind of person who doesn't understand why people get randomly depressed at such little things, so I'm not really the kind of person who's able to observe that sort of thing. Or maybe they're suddenly in the mindset that they aren't going to be successful, they aren't going to find a love, so they give up? :|

I FIGURED OUT A QUESTION, THOUGH. If you were to get a tattoo that symbolized yourself in one design, what would it be?

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dusk January 23 2009, 07:33:57 UTC
do you belieeeeve in liiife after loooove

... uh anyways more seriously. I don't believe in God. I believe in love .. and life ... and I don't believe in life after death.

AS FOR THE POINT OF IT ALL, I think that's something everyone has to figure out for themselves. As in, everyone has something different they can bring to the world. :)

AND SOMETHING TO ASK YOU ... HMM HM HM. What's the most embarrassing thing you've ever done/the most embarrassing .. moment you've experienced perhaps? :D

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dusk January 23 2009, 07:35:36 UTC
Whoops, looking at other answers .. Were we supposed to explain why we do or don't believe in these things? >> lol.

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bycitylights January 23 2009, 07:41:08 UTC
I did.. because I'm obnoxiously wordy like that LOL /shoots self

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ostia January 23 2009, 07:49:13 UTC
You can if you want?

It's up to you! Say as little or as much as you'd like.

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daluci January 23 2009, 07:38:44 UTC
I... you have Spider in your icon. I love Spider, and Transmet will screw with your head.

I believe in Something. There's too much standing on the belief side to say there's nothing. Not to say that I agree with ... well. A whole lot of what Christianity tries to say. I'm on the side of live-and-let-live, especially in religious things. I envy the people who can whole-heartedly say they believe in God/what-have-you, but I can't be that sure. I really tried to be, for a while, but I realized that if I tried to stand up in front of everyone and say... what Catholic confirmation has you say, I would be doing something much worse than just not doing anything.

Love... Want to believe it. Can't say I've experienced it in anything other than a "Do not think about hurting my familiy" kind of way. And Taylor Swift's "Love Story" makes me cry every time, so I at least have a sap living within ( ... )

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daluci January 23 2009, 07:50:29 UTC
Questions on these kinds of things aren't obnoxious to me, so don't worry on that point. XD

It's more from a sociological point of view, I guess. So many cultures/societies have developed the idea of a higher power, that I can't help but think there has to be some root of truth behind it. It can be turned around just as... people need/want, intrinsically, to have that kind of security, but ... that's my personal spin on answering an unanswerable.

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ampora January 23 2009, 12:23:35 UTC
I don't really believe in much of anything that could be a higher power. If there were higher powers, they're probably unable to do anything for us in the first place. I'm not sure when it became this way for me since my family used to be really religious thanks to my mom, but I started to get tired of it personally and I would invent ways to get out of it while I was still pretty young. I guess I just didn't care enough, after being put through CCD classes that were WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too serious business. I was dragged to church and I had a lot of doubts since nothing really made sense to me. My mom went to church every Sunday (as much as she could) and that didn't stop happening until after my dad died. She was really burnt out though afterwords and went a few times a month until she just stopped going altogether. After my dad's death my mom and I were very "Well, fuck God he didn't do shit for us. :|" which I'm sure a lot of Catholics would be all "God is just testing you" in which I give them the middle finger. So, my mom ( ... )

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ostia January 23 2009, 19:55:10 UTC
Personally the "God is just testing you" thing has always left a bad taste in my mouth. So this ever loving God of yours will test some people with petty, temporary problems, and others by taking a friend or a family member? Sounds like a shitty fucking test, and your God should feel fucking shitty for doing it.

But anyway.

On to part two. With another dumb song stuck in my head. >:|

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ampora January 23 2009, 20:31:14 UTC
That kind of reminds me of this one religion teacher I had in my senior year (I went to a private Catholic school, I don't know if I've ever told you that orz) who had cancer yet never told the class until she finally was about to beat it. She then proceeded to tell the class how the support and prayers of everyone she knew kept her alive and that if you pray enough God will help you heal. She was very "ALL YOU NEED IS PRAYER AND SUPPORT BLAH BLAH BLAH TO SURVIVE CANCER" and note this was a year after my dad had died from cancer, so I was rather peeved off she had the nerve to be like that. It doesn't matter how much support or prayer you have, you'll still fucking die from cancer if it's bad enough. God doesn't do shit to cancer, it all matters on when it's found or how much chemo you have. It also matters on the type, she just had breast cancer which is more known and so has had more cure success, while my dad had esophagus cancer which spread to other organs and so no one barely knows shit about it other than "Here, have some chemo ( ... )

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ostia January 23 2009, 20:41:44 UTC
That's a shitty thing she did. I understand what she was trying to do, but I have little patience for perpetuating bullshit by giving credit where none is due. I'd have gone off on the bitch right then and there, but I guess not doing it makes you a bigger person than I am.

Babbling is fine, Jac. You can talk to me as much as you'd like, about whatever you'd like, but you've no obligation to, so just don't feel like you HAVE to, is all.

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