Halal and kosher hit by Dutch ban

[rosicrucian]

6 November 2011[embedded video via source link provides much more info

Comments

[dangerousdame]

Well, this means that most observant Jews there will have to emigrate. So much for the Netherlands being a tolerant paradise...

[sesmo]

The Netherlands isn't that big, they will just have to import from nearby. Still a deliberate targeting (and likely of Muslims not of Jews).

[thecityofdis]

Dude, halal and kosher are different. If this weren't targeting Jews as well as Muslims, they wouldn't include shomer kashrut.

[rosicrucian]

They aren't that different, though. That's why all kosher meat is halal. I think it's mostly the prayers said over the meat that's different in the long run.

[popehippo]

I'm not an expert on the issue, but I swear I feel like some animal rights groups actually said halal/kosher methods were safer and overall more ethical? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[dangerousdame]

They have. There is no legitimate reason for this.

[lexiloumarie]

It's supposed to be the done with a perfect, sharp knife that makes a deep cut across the neck and kills the animal basically instantly. Much like old school chicken slaughter you here old relatives talk about, you know "when I was your age we took the chicken out and in one hard swing...". It's very intense training though, and to get real ortho certification, you're not half assing it.

[mollywobbles867]

That's exactly what I was just thinking.

[mastadge]

I thought that kashrut and halal required a humane method of slaughter. . .

Is a quick slit throat by a sharp knife really less humane than "stunning" animals with captive bolt pistols (guns that punch holes in the animal's skull, which often are employed incorrectly and leave the animals alive on the slaughtering line), or with electricity, which we are assured is painless (I remain skeptical).

[mastadge]

And by "alive" I meant "conscious".

[lightbird777]

I thought that kashrut and halal required a humane method of slaughter...

They do, and that's the point.

The reasons they're giving for this ban are bullshit.

[roseofjuly]

47 seconds. That's how long I could watch that video before saying "Oh Jesus" and turning it off. And the caption titles were 23 seconds.

[lexiloumarie]

Between irl antisemitism and this, just ugh. Makes my skin crawl.

[rosicrucian]

I'm sorry to hear about that. I am a pretty frequent target of IRL antisemitism in my private life as well, so I am sympathetic. :(

[lexiloumarie]

It's just a ball of fun isn't it?!

[thecityofdis]

There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch.

[yeats]

a+

[wrestlingdog]

LMFAO

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