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Will Iowans Uphold Gay Marriage?

Apr 03, 2009 21:25

The Iowa Supreme Court ruled today that same-sex marriage is protected under that state's constitution ( Read more... )

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volksjager April 4 2009, 02:20:00 UTC

Thats he same way it worked here in Mass.

shuraiya April 4 2009, 02:25:13 UTC

I find it perfect that you used Miguel and Tulio as your icon for this entry. XD

dharmavati April 4 2009, 02:35:59 UTC

Haha! I wasn't sure what would go well with this icon, but then it just clicked. XD

shuraiya April 4 2009, 02:37:10 UTC

Shawn and Gus now?! You are full of apropos icons. XD

dharmavati April 4 2009, 02:54:41 UTC

LOL. :D

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sundaypearl April 4 2009, 02:27:07 UTC

So does this mean that you predict that gay marriage will be legal by 2024?

missmurchison April 4 2009, 02:31:57 UTC

I think sooner. At some point, baring the possible backlash, there will be a consensus in the country that gay marriage should be legal. At that point, the federal government will most likely recognize it. When that happens, the fair faith and credit clause of the Constitution would have to come into effect. (I don't understand why it's not considered in effect now. This is why I think DOMA is unconstitutional - I mean besides the fact that it denies civil rights. If a contract for anything else that's signed in MA, CT, and IA is legal in FL, NY, etc., then why not a marriage contract?)

poddleduck April 4 2009, 03:47:58 UTC

DOMA is pointblank unconstitutional. That being said, in a lot of ways it's not been a terrible thing for the American LGBT community - it bought time for the culture to change. Because of it, conservatives have been cheerfully putting their passion into state amendments that can be overturned en masse by one Supreme Court decision, rather than focusing on passing what they would have to actually do to prevent them damn gays from getting married, which is a federal amendment. DOMA's been incredibly helpful, actually!

train_diskense April 4 2009, 04:42:45 UTC

...Good point.

No, no, excellent point. I've never thought of it that way before.

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piratesswoop April 4 2009, 02:32:48 UTC

i think they should propose bills to ban divorce, if they're so worried about the sanctity of marriage.

rawbery79 April 4 2009, 02:36:18 UTC

And bills against sham marriages, too.

One of my friends found out his parents split because his dad was gay, and has had a boyfriend for over ten years. It really shook him up, because it's like, "okay, everything about your childhood? Yeah, that's not at ALL what you thought it was."

rawbery79 April 4 2009, 02:36:54 UTC

Sorry, Mississippi...

I think once people realize that Iowa isn't going to turn into this rainbow strewn Sodom and Gomorrah, it's going to be easier.

laxrissalax April 4 2009, 06:35:50 UTC

I agree. It's actually quite good that it's Iowa and not one of them librul elitist ivy leaguers or those crazy Californians. I mean, what can they dig up on Iowa?