Shame half the team couldn't be sacked too!jesscpDecember 17 2015, 15:17:37 UTC
Mou :( in his defence I truly don't believe all the blame for Chelsea's decline is on his shoulders. Cackling at how Abramovich clearly thinks getting rid of Mou will return Chelsea to winning ways, because he's going to get a reality check when the same dazed, tired and switched off players hit the pitch again.
I want to write so much more but I'm busy at work so inconvenient right now! but my parting comment is get rid of half of the first team who are only there to pick a pay cheque up, send Terry on his way to MLS because he is done in the PL now and utilise their youth academy for a damn change!!
RE: Shame half the team couldn't be sacked too!amor143xDecember 17 2015, 15:28:25 UTC
Cackling at how Abramovich clearly thinks getting rid of Mou will return Chelsea to winning ways
i mean. it has happened. gladbach lost their first 5 games in the BL + 2 CL games and Favre left even though the club wanted him to stay. then they went undefeated in next 11 BL games without him. even beating bayern, but i don't follow chelsea or the PL so who knows really! lol
RE: Shame half the team couldn't be sacked too!jesscpDecember 17 2015, 15:39:57 UTC
Oh it could definitely happen and like you mention, it has happened for another club. The thing is, if you look at the Chelsea players currently, there's no drive behind their performances
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Damn it! I have such conflicted feelings over Mourinho. A Liebestod if you will.
Love in that he's the one who seduced me into watching PL football, and even flirted with following Chelsea because of him. I bought an LG phone because he advertised it, and when he said that he was 'a special one', he was the shocking daub of colour against the grey haired, grey faced coaches of the game. Because of him, I started to understand what the notion of tactics was about, how Mourinho created a slight of hand with personality, charm and a good Aramani suit, to the honours that he racked up.
In the same breath, Mourinho hastened a death - he of the 'proven' over the academy talents, which hastened the distance of football from hometown lads to the professional disinterest of foreigners; of tying a big money spend to a team as much as a moral virtue. Himself and Abramovich turned the game from what it was to what it is now: the star footballer, the manager as cult of personality, putting media in the forefront of newspaper copy. The notion
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RE: NOOOOOOOOOOpullhimdownDecember 17 2015, 20:30:51 UTC
In the same breath, Mourinho hastened a death - he of the 'proven' over the academy talents, which hastened the distance of football from hometown lads to the professional disinterest of foreigners; of tying a big money spend to a team as much as a moral virtue. Himself and Abramovich turned the game from what it was to what it is now: the star footballer, the manager as cult of personality, putting media in the forefront of newspaper copy.
I have a fuckton of conflicting feelings about the guy, but come on with the bolded parts. The guy doesn't care much about youth academies, that's true, but it's very disingenuous to tie him to big money spending on a team. How much money was Inter worth when he won the CL with them? The guy made a world class player out of Maniche, for fuck's sake. Maniche. Let that sink in for a moment. Blame him for everything else--the personality cult and the use of media is spot on--but that one's bullshit. He likes older player over youth team newbies and that's a lot that can be said for that, but what he
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RE: NOOOOOOOOOOuntxiDecember 17 2015, 20:59:01 UTC
ia. that's an easy criticism that people use nowadays bc of his chelsea & real madrid stints are far more well-known than the porto & inter ones, and people tend to conveniently forget those (not least bc the first 2 are 2 of the most hated football clubs in the world). not nearly enough credit is given to his incredibly achievements with the latter 2 teams.
RE: NOOOOOOOOOOpullhimdownDecember 17 2015, 21:11:43 UTC
People like to go in on Mourinho a lot (which I absolutely get) but the way they choose to do it is just not very intellectually honest most of the time. Abramovich didn't offer him a job at Chelsea out of the kindness of his heart, and by the time Mourinho got that gig he'd already won a UEFA cup (on his first full season at Porto) and a Champions League (on his second season). That's pretty fucking impressive for any manager with any team, let alone one as young as he was, and with a 'small' club like Porto.
You'd have to be pretty damn biased not to agree he was the best manager in the game (but then again Del Bosque won Best Coach of the Year over him in 2012 so what do I know?), and the best manager in the game should get to manage the best players in the world if he wants to. It's as simple as that.
They're linking up with Ancelotti?jazzypomDecember 17 2015, 16:00:27 UTC
I don't think Mourinho is a Bayern kind of guy though. But for real, why is Guardiola leaving bayern? Didn't he like the set up? They really catered to his every whim.
RE: They're linking up with Ancelotti?aquaecoloreDecember 17 2015, 16:04:22 UTC
i don't know if it's 100% sure he's leaving yet. But he left Barcelona as well when they didn't want him to go, no? i think.
i guess he might get bored when things are too easy. i do wonder how Bayern would manage with someone else currently. They'd probably still be doing quite well.
Re: RE: They're linking up with Ancelotti?jazzypomDecember 17 2015, 16:08:19 UTC
i guess he might get bored when things are too easy. i do wonder how Bayern would manage with someone else currently. They'd probably still be doing quite well.
I'm sure. bayern is an exceedingly well run club. They have good players, good scouts, a solid DoF, have money so they don't have to sell their best players (and can refuse funds when certain teams come calling).
But where would Guardiola go? Serie A, League 1? I can't see him coming to the PL at all, tbh.
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I want to write so much more but I'm busy at work so inconvenient right now! but my parting comment is get rid of half of the first team who are only there to pick a pay cheque up, send Terry on his way to MLS because he is done in the PL now and utilise their youth academy for a damn change!!
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i mean. it has happened. gladbach lost their first 5 games in the BL + 2 CL games and Favre left even though the club wanted him to stay. then they went undefeated in next 11 BL games without him. even beating bayern, but i don't follow chelsea or the PL so who knows really! lol
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God, I hope Chelsea don't hire Favre as their coach.
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Love in that he's the one who seduced me into watching PL football, and even flirted with following Chelsea because of him. I bought an LG phone because he advertised it, and when he said that he was 'a special one', he was the shocking daub of colour against the grey haired, grey faced coaches of the game. Because of him, I started to understand what the notion of tactics was about, how Mourinho created a slight of hand with personality, charm and a good Aramani suit, to the honours that he racked up.
In the same breath, Mourinho hastened a death - he of the 'proven' over the academy talents, which hastened the distance of football from hometown lads to the professional disinterest of foreigners; of tying a big money spend to a team as much as a moral virtue. Himself and Abramovich turned the game from what it was to what it is now: the star footballer, the manager as cult of personality, putting media in the forefront of newspaper copy. The notion ( ... )
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I have a fuckton of conflicting feelings about the guy, but come on with the bolded parts. The guy doesn't care much about youth academies, that's true, but it's very disingenuous to tie him to big money spending on a team. How much money was Inter worth when he won the CL with them? The guy made a world class player out of Maniche, for fuck's sake. Maniche. Let that sink in for a moment. Blame him for everything else--the personality cult and the use of media is spot on--but that one's bullshit. He likes older player over youth team newbies and that's a lot that can be said for that, but what he ( ... )
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You'd have to be pretty damn biased not to agree he was the best manager in the game (but then again Del Bosque won Best Coach of the Year over him in 2012 so what do I know?), and the best manager in the game should get to manage the best players in the world if he wants to. It's as simple as that.
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i guess he might get bored when things are too easy. i do wonder how Bayern would manage with someone else currently. They'd probably still be doing quite well.
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I'm sure. bayern is an exceedingly well run club. They have good players, good scouts, a solid DoF, have money so they don't have to sell their best players (and can refuse funds when certain teams come calling).
But where would Guardiola go? Serie A, League 1? I can't see him coming to the PL at all, tbh.
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