South Korea's 4B movement going viral after Trump’s win

[goshipgurl]

‘No man will touch me until I have my rights back’: why is the 4B movement going viral after Trump’s win? https://t.co/II8St8H9w6
- The Guardian (@guardian) November 7, 2024

• The 4B movement is going viral on social media after Trump's win this week, with many girls and women encouraging each other to avoid dating and physical contact with men as

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[baglady25]

I’m all for the 4B movement, but I admit my first thought after “good for her!” Is “what about the men who will resort to sexual violence?” The “your body my choice” line has made it clear these scum won’t stop just because a woman says no

[anterrabre]

Interesting enough, a lot of lady hackers (as well as some dudes fed up with other dudes shit) doxxed the fuck out of the guy who said that the other day. If you're going to say things to make others feel unsafe it's only fair that you should be unsafe as well!

[abbylover23]

Finally some good news!

[aleksie]

A lot of men already had that attitude, even on the left. More of them now feel safe saying it so bluntly, but I've heard men (and again, even alleged leftists) who would voice entitlement to a woman's bodily autonomy albeit in politer and vaguer terms.

[godrevypoint]

I…understand the point, but unfortunately “withholding” your body from a man has never, ever resulted in anything other than the man eventually getting what he wants by force. I worry this will just incite men to violence. Idk what the solution is, I’m not saying give yourself to a man but the point is men are gonna do what they do and that’s the sad truth.

[lydzi]

Everyone makes choices. If we make our own because we fear violence, that's not a choice at all.

[xtinkerbellax]

Yea so our options are coercive sex or rape? I will never understand the mentality of we should never take action for fear of retaliation when that fear is still there when we do nothing.

[ionadelfina]

Men rape women now even without 4B.

[arellaj]

This has made the gen z reddit a mess cuz it's full of angry men now lol.

[lolzerz]

That subreddit is truly scary. Its full of young men blaming women for ALL of their problems, holy shit. I guess they really couldnt handle the man vs bear meme.

Like oh poor me, im useless and unremarkable and never go outside so im not automatically getting the head i so desperately deserve. May as well become a nazi!

[flyingpigs_live]

Good.

[otraera]

that subreddit is full of babies.

[lydzi]

Considering the state of things in South Korea, I don't blame those women at all. I mean, it's in the whole world but SK is a special hell for women tbh.

[butterflyblot]

Stuff like this reminds me of the Sapolsky guy who studied a baboon troop in the 80s-90s that lived near a resort garbage dump. All the aggressive alpha males who bullied younger males and attacked females ended up dying from either killing each other or contracting tuberculosis after eating bad beef and then the demographic of the troop was so skewed to be matriarchal that there were significant behavioral changes noticed, like the troop was less aggressive/stressed altogether, spent more time grooming one another, and any new alpha male who tried to join the group acting violent was collectively shunned (or torn apart?) until they learned how to act right.