South Korea's 4B movement going viral after Trump’s win

Nov 10, 2024 23:58


‘No man will touch me until I have my rights back’: why is the 4B movement going viral after Trump’s win? https://t.co/II8St8H9w6
- The Guardian (@guardian) November 7, 2024

  • The 4B movement is going viral on social media after Trump's win this week, with many girls and women encouraging each other to avoid dating and physical contact with men as ( Read more... )

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ambermoons November 11 2024, 13:41:46 UTC
This is very conflicting bc on one hand it sounds like a very conscious move in the right direction, but on the other hand I am disappointingly straight and touch starved and have been thinking about dating for a good while now. But finding a decent guy right now feels like such a big risk hence why this move seems more beneficial in the long run, at least for the time being

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ionadelfina November 11 2024, 14:34:32 UTC
Tbh I don’t blame any straight woman who won’t go all in on 4B. Asking them to be celibate is a big ask. I don’t think there is a movement in the world that I would be 100% celibate for. Luckily, I’m bi and have options.

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ambermoons November 11 2024, 15:03:29 UTC
I'm glad you have those options. Thing is, I'm assuming the people joining the movement are likely much more experienced than I am with dating and wouldn't have found themselves so drawn to it if not for a need for more protectiveness and solidarity, while the climate with men is becoming increasingly more hostile. I don't want to come across as thinking i'll be an exception or whatever, I'm just a bit more comfortable with being kind of in the middle until I find myself having "been there done that" more.

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nomoneyfun November 11 2024, 16:56:11 UTC
People have the right to opt out of a social movement they don't want to participate in, but I do not think celibacy is a "big" ask. A lot of the pushback against not sleeping with men seems to be indicative of how many women find their value through being desirable to men. Mind you, the orgasm gap is a still a chasm and there are Reddit threads full of women complaining about experiences with sex where the man simply uses her body to masturbate, but abstaining from sex with men is a non-negotiable? Please!

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novacek001 November 11 2024, 14:24:08 UTC
love this but also can't help but think that only these asshole men would be procreating and spreading their toxic offspring all over

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victorrules November 11 2024, 14:24:45 UTC
Content warning: domestic violence and femicide ( ... )

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vaeltaa November 11 2024, 14:27:30 UTC
let's fucking go, ladies

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bellwetherr November 11 2024, 14:28:13 UTC
it has been so upsetting to see women come to terms with how little they are cared for or respected by men in general, but especially the men in their lives this last week

i feel lucky and grateful i have a partner who's a human being but goddamn it is bleak out there

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anterrabre November 11 2024, 15:26:29 UTC
Having those same feelings of thankfulness because goddamn it's bleak out here. If anything happens to my partner I think I'll stay single because once you've had someone who treats you well and treasures you, you can't go back to bullshit.

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bellwetherr November 12 2024, 03:22:23 UTC
oh if this doesn't work i'm done lmao i will veer very much to the women side of my bisexuality

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aleksie November 11 2024, 16:12:08 UTC
I had hope (which was so foolish) an ex wouldn't show his assholery last week, but he always manages to prove me wrong. This ex is a MOC who is member of the DSA and leftist and all that jazz. He capes hard for white women who grew up wealthy or at least middle class, and he treats me (a WOC who grew up very working class) as though I was born into a billionaire family.

I was so tempted last week to upload all the screenshots of the fucked up shit he said to me and let the chips fall where they may because I'm tired of his shit and him having the professional image of a good guy. He's not.

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