Drama with the Drama Queens

[betgfm]

Deux Moi podcast discussed the drama with the Drama Queens and it’s not just about a book cover. Joy is apparently anti trans and homophobic and the other two have had enough.

Comments

[abbylover23]

I have been desperate for news on this ngl, I just listened and had no idea Joy was one of the reasons Hilarie wasn’t asked back after S6.

Anyway fuck Joy forever for being anti trans - love that Sophia & Hilarie have been posting so much more in support about trans rights recently.

I love your suggestion for replacing Joy with Danneel, OP!

[fernandocolunga]

Wait what did Joy have to do with Hilarie not being asked to return?

[abbylover23]

They didn’t give anymore details- idk if they’ll add more to a newsletter they mentioned? Tbh ONTD is my only source for goss/news so idk how they work but I presume they’ll reveal more if they get interest? Maybe?

[likeanunmadebed]

Do you mean S6 of the podcast? I stopped listening after S4 because that's when OTH as a show started going downhill. I did wonder if the podcast had been in production with this drama going on.

[a_files06]

....why is the cut "read more"

[betgfm]

No just don’t post very often and screwed up 🤷‍♀️

[tigermilk]

Oh my god what a sick burn if true

[likeanunmadebed]

We're already suffering with a lack of photos here

[bulusa]

i'm not trying to be rude but i feel like i need context for this post because drama queens is a very unspecific name for something

[imnotasquirrel]

Drama Queens is the name of the podcast that Joy, Sophia, and Hilarie have to discuss OTH.

[bulusa]

Somehow I understood OTH means One Tree Hill, for any readers who are still confused lol

[kamikashi]

right? even saying OTH... there needs to be last names here people lol

[golden_train]

Uhm, yikes.

[imnotasquirrel]

Joy's bullshit conservative beliefs have never been a secret. Well, not a well-kept secret anyway. There is no way that this is the first time that Sophia and Hilarie have known this, not when pretty much everyone in the OTH fandom (aside from the delusional Joy stans, ig) have acknowledged how sus she is. Joy wrote a blog post years ago defending the racial profiling of Muslims. IIRC, she followed people like libsoftiktok. If Sophia and Hilarie bought her bs about how she doesn't always agree~ with the people she follows, then they're even dumber than they come across in their insta posts.

I mean, I guess it's better late than never that they're cutting ties with Joy. I just don't think it's as simple as thinking they're that committed to progressive values, because they overlooked a lot to get to this point.

[galactoze]

Yeah, I remember that blog post....Everyone knew it in the fandom

[distant_lines]

I think people tried to convince themselves that her beliefs were initially due to her shitty husband, and then when she got divorced, just tried to believe she would be more liberal. And she mostly kept thoughts hidden, but the podcast started to shed more of a light on it because of off comments she'd make.

[crash31]

It’s very obvious (to me at least) they clearly overlooked and ignored her beliefs and fucked up social media follows in order to make the podcast work. Sure, they could have done the pod without Joy, but it would have been a glaringly obvious choice to do so and when you only have 3 female leads who always claimed to get along and support each other, it’s a tough sell when it’s not the whole package.