Cloud Clone?

[neo_rufus]

Before I start this entry, I just would like to welcome the new handful of members to the community. Thank you so much for joining, and I do hope you will like it here. With that said…it’s debate time

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[neo_rufus]

So that's why Zack wasn't effect like Cloud was, it makes allot of sense to me now. Mako poisoning is a kind of allergy, isn't it? That's a very interesting and deep way of looking at it. At least I was right about how Sephiroth was controlling, using the Jenova cells within him.

You have a very awesome way with words. Thanks for commenting. I understand the situation much better. :)

[mimi_sardinia]

What it really comes down to is the meaning of the word "clone" in the game.

One explaination - the one I subscribe to - is that the "Clone" experiment is not really clones the way we think of them. The real purpose of the experiment was what Hojo was nattering on about in the Crater - to see if all of Jenova's parts would gather back together. Oh I think it's posible that he got it past ShinRa approval as part of a "more powerful SOLDIERS" experiment but in truth he was playing with Jenova.

So anyway, Hojo injects large amounts of Jenova cells into the survivors of Nibelheim, some of them mutate (hence the black cloaks), some who are more resistant don't. All of them get numbers tattooed on them at some stage but Zack escapes - taking Cloud - before Cloud can be tattooed.

Cloud's mind is badly messed up by the experiments and all the mako he's exposed to during that time so he's practically catatonic until Zack is killed, then he rouses a bit, somehow wanders into Midgar and colapses again at train station. Cue Tifa

[neo_rufus]

Hmm...maybe it was a mistranslation. It's very likely. :)

Lol...you got that right! :)

[mimi_sardinia]

That's true too! XD

[irisangel]

I actually was reading up on it last night. It was wikipedia, which isn't the best resource, I know, but it made sense to me, at least at three in the morning it did. I'm still sleep deprived, so it still makes sense for now

[neo_rufus]

I was on wikipedia late at night as well. I was reading and fixing up the Rufus Shinra article. I hope you are feeling well rested today

[bangbangshinra]

I agree with all the above - Cloud wasn't a clone but was led to believe he was by the false information given to him by Hojo and Sephiroth. It was only that he was weak willed at the time of the experiment that meant he couldn't handle the mako and Jenova cells - and led to him having all the false memories etc - although this made him more self-confident for a while he was still very easily manipulated by Sephiroth - his lowest point was after Aerith had died, he blamed himself so much and lost all that confidence and faith in himself - and that mixed with grief probably led him to believe the lies of Sephiroth - and the misinformed info from Hojo - therefore making him think himself a clone and thusly being even more easily manipulated

[neo_rufus]

I just can't get over how 1 lie started this entire game, it's amazing. Part of me does miss the cocky Cloud in the beginning of the game. He was somewhat funny and sarcastic. It was just a shame that he looked down on everybody else at the time, and thought of himself as superior in every way. I'd imagine he considered telling the truth after the Turks destroyed that plate, killing all those people, including members of AVALANCHE. But as you said, the death of Aerith was the lowest point in his life

[mimi_sardinia]

Even if Hojo was able to power up Sephiroth, I'm sure Sephiroth would have killed his dad in the end anyway.

With the dismissive attitude he apparently had in Nibelheim I doubt Sephiroth held Hojo in much reguard and I doubt insanity would have reversed that, in fact it'd probably make it worse.

[neo_rufus]

Lol...point taken. :P