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Feb 23, 2011 21:30

I mentioned to acchikocchi a while ago that I was going to write a post about how I write DV and DS. this is kind of that post? or just me blathering on.

characterization, DV/DS and so on )

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Re: part 2 nahco3 March 4 2011, 06:02:44 UTC
well... if there's soul-bonding there is no excuse for not writing soul-bonded DV/DS TRANSFER ANGST which is 9000 times angsty than regular angst. because come on, all those Figo hints and what it did to Pep - can you imagine having an excuse to write David Villa as physically love sick? and the doctors at Barca are really gruff about it and "we never would have bought you alone if we had known!" and "I can't believe Valencia were so irresponsible ( ... )

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Re: part 2 acchikocchi March 4 2011, 17:07:05 UTC
I HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL MORNING FOR A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON THIS.

if there's soul-bonding there is no excuse for not writing soul-bonded DV/DS TRANSFER ANGST

so I read this on my phone on the train this morning and actually had to clap a hand over my mouth to hide my gleeful lunatic grin. because. BECAUSE. THIS IS SO AMAZING.

can you imagine having an excuse to write David Villa as physically love sick?

ksldfaksjkdlfjadl I want this so badly. oh, maybe that explains the early shock loss to Hercules? it's before they figure out what's going on and everyone on the team is adversely affected by DV's raging psychic angst. and then it all comes out. obviously being Barca and experienced in all of this they figure out how to adjust, but DV's still suffering of course. and that's also why for a while he kept hitting the post all. the. time.

"I can't believe Valencia were so irresponsible."

oh, I CAN.

and then they talk about buying DS with the same kind of obnoxious righteousness I associate with their quest for Cesc.this is the ( ... )

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Re: part 2 nahco3 March 5 2011, 18:35:22 UTC
I GOT THIS COMMENT YESTERDAY AND I TOO HAVE BEEN WAITING TO RESPOND TO IT. !!!!

had to clap a hand over my mouth to hide my gleeful lunatic grin. because. BECAUSE. THIS IS SO AMAZING.

basically this was me when I got your comment. my friend actually asked me what was so funny and I was like "nothing just reading my email." because I could not stop smiling.

it's before they figure out what's going on and everyone on the team is adversely affected by DV's raging psychic angst. and then it all comes out. obviously being Barca and experienced in all of this they figure out how to adjust, but DV's still suffering of course. and that's also why for a while he kept hitting the post all. the. time.

THIS IS GREAT. I love that idea, that DV's "raging psychic angst" (:D :D) would get to everyone, or at least to Xavi who is super-sensitive, right? and he'd be like "it wasn't like this at World Cup. What's going on?"

oh, I CAN.ME TOO. like, in 2007 or something they just call the two of them in and say, ok we're gonna bond you! and DV and DS ( ... )

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oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN. acchikocchi March 6 2011, 02:47:44 UTC
let me just say my earlier reactions had NOTHING on this one. nothing. oh my god. how is this all so amazing. I can't even.

like, in 2007 or something they just call the two of them in and say, ok we're gonna bond you! and DV and DS maybe have objections, but they end up going along with it because the team needs them too and the get assured it's going to be very weak, etc. EXCEPT OBVIOUSLY OF COURSE IT IS NOT.YES. YES. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. that, like - okay I have to back up a lot for this. get ready ( ... )

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Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN. nahco3 March 6 2011, 03:47:31 UTC
in advance:

I asked metricula for her permission to write this or whatever, over here: http://meretricula.livejournal.com/175618.html?thread=2098178#t2098178

so there's some of her backstory and also some of my ideas and also people being enthusiastic and asking her for DV/Leo fic. I have a feeling you know how this makes me feel. (I try not to judge but. people, you don't understand. *sniff* DV and DS at Valencia were way more slashy than anything most people could ever dream. my OTP. *weeps* anyway.)

AND NOW, EPIC RESPONSE:

(RM might be sort of late to the whole bonding thing because they're Real and they have six European Cups and they can dominate the world without stooping to copying Barca, whatever. only eventually they change theire mind.) and Raul and Mori too young and in love to consider the consequences, basically. so then they have five awesome years of winning everything, golden age, what have you.I AM LITERALLY IN LOVE WITH YOU. ( ... )

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Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN. acchikocchi March 6 2011, 05:07:00 UTC
oh god, now I'm going look completely insane to anyone who comes by. WHATEVER. I HAVE COMPANY. maybe I should have been nicer in that not!dv/leo thread. OH WELL.

so there's some of her backstory and also some of my ideas and also people being enthusiastic and asking her for DV/Leo fic. I have a feeling you know how this makes me feel...........yes. yes I do. never mind, I take the above comment back ( ... )

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Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN. nahco3 March 6 2011, 05:42:56 UTC
..........yes. yes I do. never mind, I take the above comment back.

exactly! I know that DV/Leo shippers are wonderful people. but. um. yeah. anyway, this is my journal so.

"what is this bonding idea, I don't trust this, what, this is something Barcelona does? please, we don't hold with that kind of thing here because we're Real Madrid." so off Mori goes. and going by [info]meretricula's explanations there's not the physical backlash, but Mori's success/Raul's angst/etc. still apply. though they still go see each other all the time, because it feels better that way. and they're determined that Mori will come back and everything will be okay!!1!

I NEED TO STOP QUOTING MASSIVE BITS OF THIS BACK TO YOU BUT. your Perez is so perfectly evil and horrible. the Mori/Raul angst is SO PLAUSIBLE and lovely. the note of hope. everything oh god.

Perez is still a douche, etc., everything follows accordingly. and actually, this works even better, because since this whole bonding thing is confusing and secret outside of Barca, Mori wouldn't even ( ... )

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Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN. acchikocchi March 6 2011, 07:34:18 UTC
this is a safe space, in other words. oh good. XD
guess why it's taken me so long to answer this comment.

maybe DV goes to him for advice? and he gives a really confusing answer and DV ultimately decides he has to do it; he's got no choice and the team needs him and what can happen really? and then WHAM. honestly, I think DS would have been harder for Koeman to talk around because he's a pretty stubborn guy deep down, but he was younger and not so cynical (obviously, this is what changed all that) so I can see him being talked around eventually.yes, yes yes yes. I think DV's drive to succeed would work in Koeman's favor, which of course he'd know - like, if DV wanted it badly enough (and back then - yeah) he'd convince himself it would be fine, and hey, Mori said it was okay... or he sort of did... whatever, if Raul can handle it, so can he. also, yeah, for sure, I feel like DS got talked into it because he was pretty young and unsuspecting. also, you know, when DV actually came around to the idea, that miiiiight have influenced his ( ... )

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Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN. nahco3 March 7 2011, 04:45:18 UTC
I think DV's drive to succeed would work in Koeman's favor, which of course he'd know - like, if DV wanted it badly enough (and back then - yeah) he'd convince himself it would be fine, and hey, Mori said it was okay... or he sort of did... whatever, if Raul can handle it, so can he. also, yeah, for sure, I feel like DS got talked into it because he was pretty young and unsuspecting. also, you know, when DV actually came around to the idea, that miiiiight have influenced his thoughts...

I love this, because I usually think of DV and DS as fairly strong-willed, but with the right leverage, they could be convinced to do stupid shit like this. Koeman could easily play off DV's drive to succeed, as well as his stupid rivalry with Raul - if Raul can handle it, so can he, like you said, which is a great way of articulating it. and yeah, DS being young, maybe still a little trusting. and once DV tells him he wants to do it, of course, it's a whole new ball game.

you know Cesc comes back for vacation and is like "so we've been doing this ( ... )

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Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN. louis_quatorze March 7 2011, 21:46:35 UTC
*pokes head in* hi!

though by the way I still think Arsenal does... something. that's why they and Barca are so damn prickly about each other. or at least Barca suspects they're up to something. (the Cesc thing obviously ties into this.)

The Dutch! They're everywhere. Bergkamp, Overmars, van Persie...and if Henry and Robert Pires weren't bonded in a world that has soulbonding, NO ONE IS BONDED.

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Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN. nahco3 March 8 2011, 00:15:00 UTC
hi! welcome to the party. :)

and if Henry and Robert Pires weren't bonded in a world that has soulbonding, NO ONE IS BONDED.

that is the truest of true facts. it makes absolute and complete sense.

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Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN. acchikocchi March 8 2011, 05:04:35 UTC
aha! now it all makes sense. those sneaky Dutch.

if Henry and Robert Pires weren't bonded in a world that has soulbonding, NO ONE IS BONDED

oh man, you're so right.


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Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN. nahco3 March 8 2011, 05:17:21 UTC
I AM GOING ON A YOUTUBE QUEST RIGHT NOW.

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ugh typo fail nahco3 March 8 2011, 05:11:18 UTC
THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY DAY 6 MILLION TIMES BETTER.

brb looking for that youtube clip where they share headphones. (fun fact, Bobby/Thierry were the first pairing I ever thought of. I went looking for fic and found footballslash. wow.)

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