I mentioned to acchikocchi a while ago that I was going to write a post about how I write DV and DS. this is kind of that post? or just me blathering on.
well... if there's soul-bonding there is no excuse for not writing soul-bonded DV/DS TRANSFER ANGST which is 9000 times angsty than regular angst. because come on, all those Figo hints and what it did to Pep - can you imagine having an excuse to write David Villa as physically love sick? and the doctors at Barca are really gruff about it and "we never would have bought you alone if we had known!" and "I can't believe Valencia were so irresponsible."
and then they talk about buying DS with the same kind of obnoxious righteousness I associate with their quest for Cesc. MEANWHILE IN MANCHESTER Silva is hiding his symptoms of PHYSICAL AGONY BECAUSE DV IS GONE because most people in the EPL don't believe in soul bonding as a thing? because they are British and don't need that foreign shit, etc. so DS hides it and tries to fit in (and has a career there equivalent to his current one.)
and DV thinks he's happy there since he manages to block DV from knowing any of this, so DV says "don't buy him, he's happy, whatever" and there is just a lot of pain.
and probably a happy ending eventually. or not, knowing me. there can be a sequel with a happy ending.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL MORNING FOR A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON THIS.
if there's soul-bonding there is no excuse for not writing soul-bonded DV/DS TRANSFER ANGST
so I read this on my phone on the train this morning and actually had to clap a hand over my mouth to hide my gleeful lunatic grin. because. BECAUSE. THIS IS SO AMAZING.
can you imagine having an excuse to write David Villa as physically love sick?
ksldfaksjkdlfjadl I want this so badly. oh, maybe that explains the early shock loss to Hercules? it's before they figure out what's going on and everyone on the team is adversely affected by DV's raging psychic angst. and then it all comes out. obviously being Barca and experienced in all of this they figure out how to adjust, but DV's still suffering of course. and that's also why for a while he kept hitting the post all. the. time.
"I can't believe Valencia were so irresponsible."
oh, I CAN.
and then they talk about buying DS with the same kind of obnoxious righteousness I associate with their quest for Cesc.
this is the PERFECT TOUCH. god, can you just imagine. "David Silva belongs in Barcelona!" Man City fans: "what the actual fuck he's not even from there."
and DV thinks he's happy there since he manages to block DV from knowing any of this, so DV says "don't buy him, he's happy, whatever" and there is just a lot of pain.
I love it. I love it. this whole premise is slamming all my buttons at once, so hard. and the strain of covering up the physical symptoms and blocking everything from DV while, oh yeah, playing top-level football in the EPL eventually makes DS collapse on the pitch or something, and DV completely flips the fuck out in Barcelona.
okay, seriously. you have to write this. EVEN JUST SNIPPETS, I WOULD TAKE SNIPPETS. I shouldn't be so greedy when you're already writing me things but I just can't help it. SORRY.
(also I realize I say this like every week but I am so glad you're in this corner of fandom, I don't know what I'd be doing if all along you'd been a Stevie/Xabi shipper or something. probably go around with this weird empty feeling inside without knowing why.)
I GOT THIS COMMENT YESTERDAY AND I TOO HAVE BEEN WAITING TO RESPOND TO IT. !!!!
had to clap a hand over my mouth to hide my gleeful lunatic grin. because. BECAUSE. THIS IS SO AMAZING.
basically this was me when I got your comment. my friend actually asked me what was so funny and I was like "nothing just reading my email." because I could not stop smiling.
it's before they figure out what's going on and everyone on the team is adversely affected by DV's raging psychic angst. and then it all comes out. obviously being Barca and experienced in all of this they figure out how to adjust, but DV's still suffering of course. and that's also why for a while he kept hitting the post all. the. time.
THIS IS GREAT. I love that idea, that DV's "raging psychic angst" (:D :D) would get to everyone, or at least to Xavi who is super-sensitive, right? and he'd be like "it wasn't like this at World Cup. What's going on?"
oh, I CAN.
ME TOO. like, in 2007 or something they just call the two of them in and say, ok we're gonna bond you! and DV and DS maybe have objections, but they end up going along with it because the team needs them too and the get assured it's going to be very weak, etc. EXCEPT OBVIOUSLY OF COURSE IT IS NOT.
but then they win Euros, so everything's ok.
"David Silva belongs in Barcelona!" Man City fans: "what the actual fuck he's not even from there."
ahahaaa, exactly. and Mancini is like "or maybe David Villa belongs at City DID YOU EVER THINK OF THAT?"
and the strain of covering up the physical symptoms and blocking everything from DV while, oh yeah, playing top-level football in the EPL eventually makes DS collapse on the pitch or something, and DV completely flips the fuck out in Barcelona.
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD YES THIS. just lsdjfljdljlkj. ok ok, can you imagine. DS has blocked out DV for so long and the pressure's mounting and mounting and then something happens (a bad tackle?) and it suddenly gets to be too much. he collapses and is stretchered off the pitch. suddenly, the mental block thing comes down and DV, on the team bus traveling to a game or something, throws up and starts (ok, maybe this is a little much but FUCK IT) is like crying but refuses to acknowledge that he is and is being super-bitchy because he's panicking and that's how he deals with it. so Pep has someone tell him what's up with the Man City game and then is basically "fuck."
and somehow manages to convince City that Silva needs to be sent to do rehab in Barca and then there is like, a lot of DOCTOR MANDATING CUDDLING but also angst since DS is going to have to leave soon, when he's recovered.
and DV asks about breaking the bond (for Silva's sake, obviously) even though it means he may never be able to play again and the doctors are about to do it but Silva can't let them because the prospect of not having DV in his head would just be too much.
EVEN JUST SNIPPETS, I WOULD TAKE SNIPPETS.
I WANT TO WRITE SNIPPETS. I'm doing a bunch of stuff today, but I'll hopefully post some?
(also I realize I say this like every week but I am so glad you're in this corner of fandom, I don't know what I'd be doing if all along you'd been a Stevie/Xabi shipper or something. probably go around with this weird empty feeling inside without knowing why.)
I FEEL THIS WAY TOO, ALL THE TIME. we belong together, what can I say.
you know who else had a tragic soul bonding experience, right?
Dear the Guardian,
I love you,
love me
BUT SERIOUSLY. oh god, that would be so amazing, and is also so true.
oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN.acchikocchiMarch 6 2011, 02:47:44 UTC
let me just say my earlier reactions had NOTHING on this one. nothing. oh my god. how is this all so amazing. I can't even.
like, in 2007 or something they just call the two of them in and say, ok we're gonna bond you! and DV and DS maybe have objections, but they end up going along with it because the team needs them too and the get assured it's going to be very weak, etc. EXCEPT OBVIOUSLY OF COURSE IT IS NOT.
YES. YES. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. that, like - okay I have to back up a lot for this. get ready.
so. Madrid. 1997. RM buys Mori thinking he'll make a good backup option for Mijatovic and Suker, like in RL. BUT to their surprise he has this amazing resonance with Raul, right, so not only he does break right into the starting lineup but they decide to bond him and Raul. (RM might be sort of late to the whole bonding thing because they're Real and they have six European Cups and they can dominate the world without stooping to copying Barca, whatever. only eventually they change theire mind.) and Raul and Mori too young and in love to consider the consequences, basically. so then they have five awesome years of winning everything, golden age, what have you.
and then Perez comes along. and obviously doesn't care about bonds or whatever. actually he kind of distrusts this whole thing and doesn't thing it's healthy for the team to rely on them. also he's basically just kind of a douche. so the whole . so Mori goes out on loan to Monaco and that's why Raul has such a miserable season '03-'04. Mori OTOH has a great season at Monaco (top CL scorer!), which seriously messes with Raul. but part of the reason is that Mori's determined to prove to Perez that he's good anyway and doesn't rely on his bond with Raul. so that he can stay at Real after all. and the other part of the reason is that Mori turns out to be just really good at meshing with other sensitive players, period, and Monaco has lots of those: Giuly (who goes on to Barca, so obviously), Evra, Adebayor, etc. so seeing that makes Raul all messed up about whether it doesn't mean as much to Mori, if he doesn't mean as much to Mori, if he relies on the bond too much himself, etc. only he's Raul so he's determined to be noble and longsuffering about it.
BUT the important difference from DV/DS is that a. they're not as far apart from each other, b. they still get to see each other pretty frequently (all those visits), and c. they're not ACTIVELY TRYING TO IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES.
so anyway, Mori does come back, but it kind of backfires because Perez is like "see, this bonding thing is no big deal, I can split up whoever I want" and sends him off to Liverpool. once again, it's still manageable because Raul comes to Liverpool a lot, etc. and also, they've slowly learning to cope apart. WHICH IS IN ITSELF PRETTY ANGSTY.
(tangent: there's actually one team in the EPL that does deal with that foreign psychic shit. it's Arsenal.)
SO THEN Liverpool doesn't work out and Mori goes to Valencia. where he meets DV! and he and DV click right away! because obviously DV has all this potential and Mori is good with those types. (note: insert more Raul angst here, obviously.) and DV's not entirely sure what's going on because people said Raul and Mori were bonded, but then how could they have been split up, and obviously they're managing fine now, so. maybe they're not. also he has a crush on Mori, obviously.
anyway so then 2006-2007 rolls around, bringing David Silva with it. so after a while (early 2007? over the summer? idk?) they're like, okay guys, we're bonding you now! it's in your contract! and DV's less than thrilled with the idea. and he's like, what about Morientes, we get along really well, and they're like, uh, no, Morientes was bonded to someone else. also he's too old. (and this, incidentally, is what gives everyone involved - DV, DS, VCF management - the misguided idea that bonded players can be split up just like that with only minor trouble.) anyway, Silva's young and you've got several productive years ahead of you. and also the whole thing about, oh, it'll be weak anyway. and then it's not.
so there's some of her backstory and also some of my ideas and also people being enthusiastic and asking her for DV/Leo fic. I have a feeling you know how this makes me feel. (I try not to judge but. people, you don't understand. *sniff* DV and DS at Valencia were way more slashy than anything most people could ever dream. my OTP. *weeps* anyway.)
AND NOW, EPIC RESPONSE:
(RM might be sort of late to the whole bonding thing because they're Real and they have six European Cups and they can dominate the world without stooping to copying Barca, whatever. only eventually they change theire mind.) and Raul and Mori too young and in love to consider the consequences, basically. so then they have five awesome years of winning everything, golden age, what have you.
I AM LITERALLY IN LOVE WITH YOU. NO ACTUALLY. of course Real would be late-adopters of all this. and of course since Mori and Raul were all in love and blind to their future pain. sdfjdjklf.
but part of the reason is that Mori's determined to prove to Perez that he's good anyway and doesn't rely on his bond with Raul. so that he can stay at Real after all. and the other part of the reason is that Mori turns out to be just really good at meshing with other sensitive players, period, and Monaco has lots of those: Giuly (who goes on to Barca, so obviously), Evra, Adebayor, etc. so seeing that makes Raul all messed up about whether it doesn't mean as much to Mori, if he doesn't mean as much to Mori, if he relies on the bond too much himself, etc. only he's Raul so he's determined to be noble and longsuffering about it.
I FEEL LIKE CAPSLOCK HAS LOST ITS MEANING SINCE I USE IT SO MUCH BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT. oh my god. that is all I can say because this is so good and YOU NEED TO WRITE THIS.
a. they're not as far apart from each other, b. they still get to see each other pretty frequently (all those visits), and c. they're not ACTIVELY TRYING TO IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES.
this made me laugh.
sends him off to Liverpool. once again, it's still manageable because Raul comes to Liverpool a lot, etc. and also, they've slowly learning to cope apart. WHICH IS IN ITSELF PRETTY ANGSTY.
DJL:KJL:KJREL:KJ:OBIFJ:KLJDLKJDFDFGFG. that's all.
(tangent: there's actually one team in the EPL that does deal with that foreign psychic shit. it's Arsenal.)
oh my god I laughed so hard because of this. because yes, yes and also YES.
because obviously DV has all this potential and Mori is good with those types. (note: insert more Raul angst here, obviously.) and DV's not entirely sure what's going on because people said Raul and Mori were bonded, but then how could they have been split up, and obviously they're managing fine now, so. maybe they're not. also he has a crush on Mori, obviously.
you are my absolute favorite for all of this.
and this, incidentally, is what gives everyone involved - DV, DS, VCF management - the misguided idea that bonded players can be split up just like that with only minor trouble.) anyway, Silva's young and you've got several productive years ahead of you. and also the whole thing about, oh, it'll be weak anyway. and then it's not.
this was exactly what I was thinking! I elaborated a bit on my idea in the post I linked to but: yes.
basically I envision Ronald Koeman being the manager who bonded them because of his connections with Barca and Holland but also because he was a douche who fucked over Valencia. so he'd bring them in and basically bond them without really explaining it properly, and possibly bringing in some cut-rate doctor he knows from Holland who has had his medical license revoked at some point or whatever. and of course the bond ends up being EXTRA STRONG AND INTENSE.
and so DS can't hide his feelings for DV anymore and DV realizes he feels the same way and everything is ok, because the club's falling apart but at least they have each other, until they suddenly don't, anymore.
Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN.acchikocchiMarch 6 2011, 05:07:00 UTC
oh god, now I'm going look completely insane to anyone who comes by. WHATEVER. I HAVE COMPANY. maybe I should have been nicer in that not!dv/leo thread. OH WELL.
so there's some of her backstory and also some of my ideas and also people being enthusiastic and asking her for DV/Leo fic. I have a feeling you know how this makes me feel.
..........yes. yes I do. never mind, I take the above comment back.
anyways, backstory is good! excellent, even. I was actually wondering if Barca was the only club that did this soulbonding thing officially, and then I got carried away. so that makes the perfect backdrop for creepy unethical Koeman, which is exaaaactly spot on.
though that makes my tragic Raul/Mori backstory difficult. okay, well, they can have developed one of those spontaneous bonds instead. Mori is still really good with sensitive types. and, oh, they figure everything out from Figo, who transfers and is like "....uh. I thought Real didn't do that." Raul: "Do what?"
so Perez wants to keep doing his galactico thing and they explain why they shouldn't split up Raul and Mori - the infamous night-before-the-Supercopa argument - but he's still like "what is this bonding idea, I don't trust this, what, this is something Barcelona does? please, we don't hold with that kind of thing here because we're Real Madrid." so off Mori goes. and going by meretricula's explanations there's not the physical backlash, but Mori's success/Raul's angst/etc. still apply. though they still go see each other all the time, because it feels better that way. and they're determined that Mori will come back and everything will be okay!!1!
only not. Perez is still a douche, etc., everything follows accordingly. and actually, this works even better, because since this whole bonding thing is confusing and secret outside of Barca, Mori wouldn't even know everything about it himself so he wouldn't be able to tell the Valencia people the whole story. "well... Figo said we were bonded... and neither of us have been quite as good since, so obviously there was something. though it worked out okay, I guess, since I'm here?" and that's just fuel for Koeman to go ahead with his crazy experiments. which, once again, perfect. cut-rate Dutch doctor and all. you're brilliant.
and so DS can't hide his feelings for DV anymore and DV realizes he feels the same way and everything is ok, because the club's falling apart but at least they have each other, until they suddenly don't, anymore.
this is so great and so depressing at the same time.
though by the way I still think Arsenal does... something. that's why they and Barca are so damn prickly about each other. or at least Barca suspects they're up to something. (the Cesc thing obviously ties into this.)
Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN.nahco3March 6 2011, 05:42:56 UTC
..........yes. yes I do. never mind, I take the above comment back.
exactly! I know that DV/Leo shippers are wonderful people. but. um. yeah. anyway, this is my journal so.
"what is this bonding idea, I don't trust this, what, this is something Barcelona does? please, we don't hold with that kind of thing here because we're Real Madrid." so off Mori goes. and going by [info]meretricula's explanations there's not the physical backlash, but Mori's success/Raul's angst/etc. still apply. though they still go see each other all the time, because it feels better that way. and they're determined that Mori will come back and everything will be okay!!1!
I NEED TO STOP QUOTING MASSIVE BITS OF THIS BACK TO YOU BUT. your Perez is so perfectly evil and horrible. the Mori/Raul angst is SO PLAUSIBLE and lovely. the note of hope. everything oh god.
Perez is still a douche, etc., everything follows accordingly. and actually, this works even better, because since this whole bonding thing is confusing and secret outside of Barca, Mori wouldn't even know everything about it himself so he wouldn't be able to tell the Valencia people the whole story. "well... Figo said we were bonded... and neither of us have been quite as good since, so obviously there was something. though it worked out okay, I guess, since I'm here?" and that's just fuel for Koeman to go ahead with his crazy experiments. which, once again, perfect. cut-rate Dutch doctor and all.
oh god yes. I love this so much. Mori not really understanding what happened to him and so not being able to say how bad it was. maybe DV goes to him for advice? and he gives a really confusing answer and DV ultimately decides he has to do it; he's got no choice and the team needs him and what can happen really? and then WHAM. honestly, I think DS would have been harder for Koeman to talk around because he's a pretty stubborn guy deep down, but he was younger and not so cynical (obviously, this is what changed all that) so I can see him being talked around eventually.
I still think Arsenal does... something. that's why they and Barca are so damn prickly about each other. or at least Barca suspects they're up to something. (the Cesc thing obviously ties into this.)
I DO TOO. ahhaa, obviously! the parallels here are too great. and the Cesc thing just makes it all funnier to me.
Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN.acchikocchiMarch 6 2011, 07:34:18 UTC
this is a safe space, in other words. oh good. XD guess why it's taken me so long to answer this comment.
maybe DV goes to him for advice? and he gives a really confusing answer and DV ultimately decides he has to do it; he's got no choice and the team needs him and what can happen really? and then WHAM. honestly, I think DS would have been harder for Koeman to talk around because he's a pretty stubborn guy deep down, but he was younger and not so cynical (obviously, this is what changed all that) so I can see him being talked around eventually.
yes, yes yes yes. I think DV's drive to succeed would work in Koeman's favor, which of course he'd know - like, if DV wanted it badly enough (and back then - yeah) he'd convince himself it would be fine, and hey, Mori said it was okay... or he sort of did... whatever, if Raul can handle it, so can he. also, yeah, for sure, I feel like DS got talked into it because he was pretty young and unsuspecting. also, you know, when DV actually came around to the idea, that miiiiight have influenced his thoughts...
and the Cesc thing just makes it all funnier to me.
you know Cesc comes back for vacation and is like "so we've been doing this WHOOPS can't talk about that actually," and all the Barca people are like "what? what? what are they using you for? okay it's time to get you back here stat."
Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN.nahco3March 7 2011, 04:45:18 UTC
I think DV's drive to succeed would work in Koeman's favor, which of course he'd know - like, if DV wanted it badly enough (and back then - yeah) he'd convince himself it would be fine, and hey, Mori said it was okay... or he sort of did... whatever, if Raul can handle it, so can he. also, yeah, for sure, I feel like DS got talked into it because he was pretty young and unsuspecting. also, you know, when DV actually came around to the idea, that miiiiight have influenced his thoughts...
I love this, because I usually think of DV and DS as fairly strong-willed, but with the right leverage, they could be convinced to do stupid shit like this. Koeman could easily play off DV's drive to succeed, as well as his stupid rivalry with Raul - if Raul can handle it, so can he, like you said, which is a great way of articulating it. and yeah, DS being young, maybe still a little trusting. and once DV tells him he wants to do it, of course, it's a whole new ball game.
you know Cesc comes back for vacation and is like "so we've been doing this WHOOPS can't talk about that actually," and all the Barca people are like "what? what? what are they using you for? okay it's time to get you back here stat."
LOL. obviously this is exactly what Barca do. and it's hilarious.
Re: oh look i broke the character limit. AGAIN.louis_quatorzeMarch 7 2011, 21:46:35 UTC
*pokes head in* hi!
though by the way I still think Arsenal does... something. that's why they and Barca are so damn prickly about each other. or at least Barca suspects they're up to something. (the Cesc thing obviously ties into this.)
The Dutch! They're everywhere. Bergkamp, Overmars, van Persie...and if Henry and Robert Pires weren't bonded in a world that has soulbonding, NO ONE IS BONDED.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING MY DAY 6 MILLION TIMES BETTER.
brb looking for that youtube clip where they share headphones. (fun fact, Bobby/Thierry were the first pairing I ever thought of. I went looking for fic and found footballslash. wow.)
and then they talk about buying DS with the same kind of obnoxious righteousness I associate with their quest for Cesc. MEANWHILE IN MANCHESTER Silva is hiding his symptoms of PHYSICAL AGONY BECAUSE DV IS GONE because most people in the EPL don't believe in soul bonding as a thing? because they are British and don't need that foreign shit, etc. so DS hides it and tries to fit in (and has a career there equivalent to his current one.)
and DV thinks he's happy there since he manages to block DV from knowing any of this, so DV says "don't buy him, he's happy, whatever" and there is just a lot of pain.
and probably a happy ending eventually. or not, knowing me. there can be a sequel with a happy ending.
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if there's soul-bonding there is no excuse for not writing soul-bonded DV/DS TRANSFER ANGST
so I read this on my phone on the train this morning and actually had to clap a hand over my mouth to hide my gleeful lunatic grin. because. BECAUSE. THIS IS SO AMAZING.
can you imagine having an excuse to write David Villa as physically love sick?
ksldfaksjkdlfjadl I want this so badly. oh, maybe that explains the early shock loss to Hercules? it's before they figure out what's going on and everyone on the team is adversely affected by DV's raging psychic angst. and then it all comes out. obviously being Barca and experienced in all of this they figure out how to adjust, but DV's still suffering of course. and that's also why for a while he kept hitting the post all. the. time.
"I can't believe Valencia were so irresponsible."
oh, I CAN.
and then they talk about buying DS with the same kind of obnoxious righteousness I associate with their quest for Cesc.
this is the PERFECT TOUCH. god, can you just imagine. "David Silva belongs in Barcelona!" Man City fans: "what the actual fuck he's not even from there."
and DV thinks he's happy there since he manages to block DV from knowing any of this, so DV says "don't buy him, he's happy, whatever" and there is just a lot of pain.
I love it. I love it. this whole premise is slamming all my buttons at once, so hard. and the strain of covering up the physical symptoms and blocking everything from DV while, oh yeah, playing top-level football in the EPL eventually makes DS collapse on the pitch or something, and DV completely flips the fuck out in Barcelona.
okay, seriously. you have to write this. EVEN JUST SNIPPETS, I WOULD TAKE SNIPPETS. I shouldn't be so greedy when you're already writing me things but I just can't help it. SORRY.
(also I realize I say this like every week but I am so glad you're in this corner of fandom, I don't know what I'd be doing if all along you'd been a Stevie/Xabi shipper or something. probably go around with this weird empty feeling inside without knowing why.)
(also you know who else had a tragic soul bonding experience, right? I mean, the Guardian's the one who called them telepathic, not me.)
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had to clap a hand over my mouth to hide my gleeful lunatic grin. because. BECAUSE. THIS IS SO AMAZING.
basically this was me when I got your comment. my friend actually asked me what was so funny and I was like "nothing just reading my email." because I could not stop smiling.
it's before they figure out what's going on and everyone on the team is adversely affected by DV's raging psychic angst. and then it all comes out. obviously being Barca and experienced in all of this they figure out how to adjust, but DV's still suffering of course. and that's also why for a while he kept hitting the post all. the. time.
THIS IS GREAT. I love that idea, that DV's "raging psychic angst" (:D :D) would get to everyone, or at least to Xavi who is super-sensitive, right? and he'd be like "it wasn't like this at World Cup. What's going on?"
oh, I CAN.
ME TOO. like, in 2007 or something they just call the two of them in and say, ok we're gonna bond you! and DV and DS maybe have objections, but they end up going along with it because the team needs them too and the get assured it's going to be very weak, etc. EXCEPT OBVIOUSLY OF COURSE IT IS NOT.
but then they win Euros, so everything's ok.
"David Silva belongs in Barcelona!" Man City fans: "what the actual fuck he's not even from there."
ahahaaa, exactly. and Mancini is like "or maybe David Villa belongs at City DID YOU EVER THINK OF THAT?"
and the strain of covering up the physical symptoms and blocking everything from DV while, oh yeah, playing top-level football in the EPL eventually makes DS collapse on the pitch or something, and DV completely flips the fuck out in Barcelona.
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD YES THIS. just lsdjfljdljlkj. ok ok, can you imagine. DS has blocked out DV for so long and the pressure's mounting and mounting and then something happens (a bad tackle?) and it suddenly gets to be too much. he collapses and is stretchered off the pitch. suddenly, the mental block thing comes down and DV, on the team bus traveling to a game or something, throws up and starts (ok, maybe this is a little much but FUCK IT) is like crying but refuses to acknowledge that he is and is being super-bitchy because he's panicking and that's how he deals with it. so Pep has someone tell him what's up with the Man City game and then is basically "fuck."
and somehow manages to convince City that Silva needs to be sent to do rehab in Barca and then there is like, a lot of DOCTOR MANDATING CUDDLING but also angst since DS is going to have to leave soon, when he's recovered.
and DV asks about breaking the bond (for Silva's sake, obviously) even though it means he may never be able to play again and the doctors are about to do it but Silva can't let them because the prospect of not having DV in his head would just be too much.
EVEN JUST SNIPPETS, I WOULD TAKE SNIPPETS.
I WANT TO WRITE SNIPPETS. I'm doing a bunch of stuff today, but I'll hopefully post some?
(also I realize I say this like every week but I am so glad you're in this corner of fandom, I don't know what I'd be doing if all along you'd been a Stevie/Xabi shipper or something. probably go around with this weird empty feeling inside without knowing why.)
I FEEL THIS WAY TOO, ALL THE TIME. we belong together, what can I say.
you know who else had a tragic soul bonding experience, right?
Dear the Guardian,
I love you,
love me
BUT SERIOUSLY. oh god, that would be so amazing, and is also so true.
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like, in 2007 or something they just call the two of them in and say, ok we're gonna bond you! and DV and DS maybe have objections, but they end up going along with it because the team needs them too and the get assured it's going to be very weak, etc. EXCEPT OBVIOUSLY OF COURSE IT IS NOT.
YES. YES. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING. that, like - okay I have to back up a lot for this. get ready.
so. Madrid. 1997. RM buys Mori thinking he'll make a good backup option for Mijatovic and Suker, like in RL. BUT to their surprise he has this amazing resonance with Raul, right, so not only he does break right into the starting lineup but they decide to bond him and Raul. (RM might be sort of late to the whole bonding thing because they're Real and they have six European Cups and they can dominate the world without stooping to copying Barca, whatever. only eventually they change theire mind.) and Raul and Mori too young and in love to consider the consequences, basically. so then they have five awesome years of winning everything, golden age, what have you.
and then Perez comes along. and obviously doesn't care about bonds or whatever. actually he kind of distrusts this whole thing and doesn't thing it's healthy for the team to rely on them. also he's basically just kind of a douche. so the whole . so Mori goes out on loan to Monaco and that's why Raul has such a miserable season '03-'04. Mori OTOH has a great season at Monaco (top CL scorer!), which seriously messes with Raul. but part of the reason is that Mori's determined to prove to Perez that he's good anyway and doesn't rely on his bond with Raul. so that he can stay at Real after all. and the other part of the reason is that Mori turns out to be just really good at meshing with other sensitive players, period, and Monaco has lots of those: Giuly (who goes on to Barca, so obviously), Evra, Adebayor, etc. so seeing that makes Raul all messed up about whether it doesn't mean as much to Mori, if he doesn't mean as much to Mori, if he relies on the bond too much himself, etc. only he's Raul so he's determined to be noble and longsuffering about it.
BUT the important difference from DV/DS is that a. they're not as far apart from each other, b. they still get to see each other pretty frequently (all those visits), and c. they're not ACTIVELY TRYING TO IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES.
so anyway, Mori does come back, but it kind of backfires because Perez is like "see, this bonding thing is no big deal, I can split up whoever I want" and sends him off to Liverpool. once again, it's still manageable because Raul comes to Liverpool a lot, etc. and also, they've slowly learning to cope apart. WHICH IS IN ITSELF PRETTY ANGSTY.
(tangent: there's actually one team in the EPL that does deal with that foreign psychic shit. it's Arsenal.)
SO THEN Liverpool doesn't work out and Mori goes to Valencia. where he meets DV! and he and DV click right away! because obviously DV has all this potential and Mori is good with those types. (note: insert more Raul angst here, obviously.) and DV's not entirely sure what's going on because people said Raul and Mori were bonded, but then how could they have been split up, and obviously they're managing fine now, so. maybe they're not. also he has a crush on Mori, obviously.
anyway so then 2006-2007 rolls around, bringing David Silva with it. so after a while (early 2007? over the summer? idk?) they're like, okay guys, we're bonding you now! it's in your contract! and DV's less than thrilled with the idea. and he's like, what about Morientes, we get along really well, and they're like, uh, no, Morientes was bonded to someone else. also he's too old. (and this, incidentally, is what gives everyone involved - DV, DS, VCF management - the misguided idea that bonded players can be split up just like that with only minor trouble.) anyway, Silva's young and you've got several productive years ahead of you. and also the whole thing about, oh, it'll be weak anyway. and then it's not.
and then everything you said.
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I asked metricula for her permission to write this or whatever, over here: http://meretricula.livejournal.com/175618.html?thread=2098178#t2098178
so there's some of her backstory and also some of my ideas and also people being enthusiastic and asking her for DV/Leo fic. I have a feeling you know how this makes me feel. (I try not to judge but. people, you don't understand. *sniff* DV and DS at Valencia were way more slashy than anything most people could ever dream. my OTP. *weeps* anyway.)
AND NOW, EPIC RESPONSE:
(RM might be sort of late to the whole bonding thing because they're Real and they have six European Cups and they can dominate the world without stooping to copying Barca, whatever. only eventually they change theire mind.) and Raul and Mori too young and in love to consider the consequences, basically. so then they have five awesome years of winning everything, golden age, what have you.
I AM LITERALLY IN LOVE WITH YOU. NO ACTUALLY. of course Real would be late-adopters of all this. and of course since Mori and Raul were all in love and blind to their future pain. sdfjdjklf.
but part of the reason is that Mori's determined to prove to Perez that he's good anyway and doesn't rely on his bond with Raul. so that he can stay at Real after all. and the other part of the reason is that Mori turns out to be just really good at meshing with other sensitive players, period, and Monaco has lots of those: Giuly (who goes on to Barca, so obviously), Evra, Adebayor, etc. so seeing that makes Raul all messed up about whether it doesn't mean as much to Mori, if he doesn't mean as much to Mori, if he relies on the bond too much himself, etc. only he's Raul so he's determined to be noble and longsuffering about it.
I FEEL LIKE CAPSLOCK HAS LOST ITS MEANING SINCE I USE IT SO MUCH BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT. oh my god. that is all I can say because this is so good and YOU NEED TO WRITE THIS.
a. they're not as far apart from each other, b. they still get to see each other pretty frequently (all those visits), and c. they're not ACTIVELY TRYING TO IGNORE THE CONSEQUENCES.
this made me laugh.
sends him off to Liverpool. once again, it's still manageable because Raul comes to Liverpool a lot, etc. and also, they've slowly learning to cope apart. WHICH IS IN ITSELF PRETTY ANGSTY.
DJL:KJL:KJREL:KJ:OBIFJ:KLJDLKJDFDFGFG. that's all.
(tangent: there's actually one team in the EPL that does deal with that foreign psychic shit. it's Arsenal.)
oh my god I laughed so hard because of this. because yes, yes and also YES.
because obviously DV has all this potential and Mori is good with those types. (note: insert more Raul angst here, obviously.) and DV's not entirely sure what's going on because people said Raul and Mori were bonded, but then how could they have been split up, and obviously they're managing fine now, so. maybe they're not. also he has a crush on Mori, obviously.
you are my absolute favorite for all of this.
and this, incidentally, is what gives everyone involved - DV, DS, VCF management - the misguided idea that bonded players can be split up just like that with only minor trouble.) anyway, Silva's young and you've got several productive years ahead of you. and also the whole thing about, oh, it'll be weak anyway. and then it's not.
this was exactly what I was thinking! I elaborated a bit on my idea in the post I linked to but: yes.
basically I envision Ronald Koeman being the manager who bonded them because of his connections with Barca and Holland but also because he was a douche who fucked over Valencia. so he'd bring them in and basically bond them without really explaining it properly, and possibly bringing in some cut-rate doctor he knows from Holland who has had his medical license revoked at some point or whatever. and of course the bond ends up being EXTRA STRONG AND INTENSE.
and so DS can't hide his feelings for DV anymore and DV realizes he feels the same way and everything is ok, because the club's falling apart but at least they have each other, until they suddenly don't, anymore.
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so there's some of her backstory and also some of my ideas and also people being enthusiastic and asking her for DV/Leo fic. I have a feeling you know how this makes me feel.
..........yes. yes I do. never mind, I take the above comment back.
anyways, backstory is good! excellent, even. I was actually wondering if Barca was the only club that did this soulbonding thing officially, and then I got carried away. so that makes the perfect backdrop for creepy unethical Koeman, which is exaaaactly spot on.
though that makes my tragic Raul/Mori backstory difficult. okay, well, they can have developed one of those spontaneous bonds instead. Mori is still really good with sensitive types. and, oh, they figure everything out from Figo, who transfers and is like "....uh. I thought Real didn't do that." Raul: "Do what?"
so Perez wants to keep doing his galactico thing and they explain why they shouldn't split up Raul and Mori - the infamous night-before-the-Supercopa argument - but he's still like "what is this bonding idea, I don't trust this, what, this is something Barcelona does? please, we don't hold with that kind of thing here because we're Real Madrid." so off Mori goes. and going by meretricula's explanations there's not the physical backlash, but Mori's success/Raul's angst/etc. still apply. though they still go see each other all the time, because it feels better that way. and they're determined that Mori will come back and everything will be okay!!1!
only not. Perez is still a douche, etc., everything follows accordingly. and actually, this works even better, because since this whole bonding thing is confusing and secret outside of Barca, Mori wouldn't even know everything about it himself so he wouldn't be able to tell the Valencia people the whole story. "well... Figo said we were bonded... and neither of us have been quite as good since, so obviously there was something. though it worked out okay, I guess, since I'm here?" and that's just fuel for Koeman to go ahead with his crazy experiments. which, once again, perfect. cut-rate Dutch doctor and all. you're brilliant.
and so DS can't hide his feelings for DV anymore and DV realizes he feels the same way and everything is ok, because the club's falling apart but at least they have each other, until they suddenly don't, anymore.
this is so great and so depressing at the same time.
though by the way I still think Arsenal does... something. that's why they and Barca are so damn prickly about each other. or at least Barca suspects they're up to something. (the Cesc thing obviously ties into this.)
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exactly! I know that DV/Leo shippers are wonderful people. but. um. yeah. anyway, this is my journal so.
"what is this bonding idea, I don't trust this, what, this is something Barcelona does? please, we don't hold with that kind of thing here because we're Real Madrid." so off Mori goes. and going by [info]meretricula's explanations there's not the physical backlash, but Mori's success/Raul's angst/etc. still apply. though they still go see each other all the time, because it feels better that way. and they're determined that Mori will come back and everything will be okay!!1!
I NEED TO STOP QUOTING MASSIVE BITS OF THIS BACK TO YOU BUT. your Perez is so perfectly evil and horrible. the Mori/Raul angst is SO PLAUSIBLE and lovely. the note of hope. everything oh god.
Perez is still a douche, etc., everything follows accordingly. and actually, this works even better, because since this whole bonding thing is confusing and secret outside of Barca, Mori wouldn't even know everything about it himself so he wouldn't be able to tell the Valencia people the whole story. "well... Figo said we were bonded... and neither of us have been quite as good since, so obviously there was something. though it worked out okay, I guess, since I'm here?" and that's just fuel for Koeman to go ahead with his crazy experiments. which, once again, perfect. cut-rate Dutch doctor and all.
oh god yes. I love this so much. Mori not really understanding what happened to him and so not being able to say how bad it was. maybe DV goes to him for advice? and he gives a really confusing answer and DV ultimately decides he has to do it; he's got no choice and the team needs him and what can happen really? and then WHAM. honestly, I think DS would have been harder for Koeman to talk around because he's a pretty stubborn guy deep down, but he was younger and not so cynical (obviously, this is what changed all that) so I can see him being talked around eventually.
I still think Arsenal does... something. that's why they and Barca are so damn prickly about each other. or at least Barca suspects they're up to something. (the Cesc thing obviously ties into this.)
I DO TOO. ahhaa, obviously! the parallels here are too great. and the Cesc thing just makes it all funnier to me.
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guess why it's taken me so long to answer this comment.
maybe DV goes to him for advice? and he gives a really confusing answer and DV ultimately decides he has to do it; he's got no choice and the team needs him and what can happen really? and then WHAM. honestly, I think DS would have been harder for Koeman to talk around because he's a pretty stubborn guy deep down, but he was younger and not so cynical (obviously, this is what changed all that) so I can see him being talked around eventually.
yes, yes yes yes. I think DV's drive to succeed would work in Koeman's favor, which of course he'd know - like, if DV wanted it badly enough (and back then - yeah) he'd convince himself it would be fine, and hey, Mori said it was okay... or he sort of did... whatever, if Raul can handle it, so can he. also, yeah, for sure, I feel like DS got talked into it because he was pretty young and unsuspecting. also, you know, when DV actually came around to the idea, that miiiiight have influenced his thoughts...
and the Cesc thing just makes it all funnier to me.
you know Cesc comes back for vacation and is like "so we've been doing this WHOOPS can't talk about that actually," and all the Barca people are like "what? what? what are they using you for? okay it's time to get you back here stat."
now bed.
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I love this, because I usually think of DV and DS as fairly strong-willed, but with the right leverage, they could be convinced to do stupid shit like this. Koeman could easily play off DV's drive to succeed, as well as his stupid rivalry with Raul - if Raul can handle it, so can he, like you said, which is a great way of articulating it. and yeah, DS being young, maybe still a little trusting. and once DV tells him he wants to do it, of course, it's a whole new ball game.
you know Cesc comes back for vacation and is like "so we've been doing this WHOOPS can't talk about that actually," and all the Barca people are like "what? what? what are they using you for? okay it's time to get you back here stat."
LOL. obviously this is exactly what Barca do. and it's hilarious.
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though by the way I still think Arsenal does... something. that's why they and Barca are so damn prickly about each other. or at least Barca suspects they're up to something. (the Cesc thing obviously ties into this.)
The Dutch! They're everywhere. Bergkamp, Overmars, van Persie...and if Henry and Robert Pires weren't bonded in a world that has soulbonding, NO ONE IS BONDED.
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and if Henry and Robert Pires weren't bonded in a world that has soulbonding, NO ONE IS BONDED.
that is the truest of true facts. it makes absolute and complete sense.
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if Henry and Robert Pires weren't bonded in a world that has soulbonding, NO ONE IS BONDED
oh man, you're so right.
awwwwww.
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brb looking for that youtube clip where they share headphones. (fun fact, Bobby/Thierry were the first pairing I ever thought of. I went looking for fic and found footballslash. wow.)
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