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skittish_derby November 12 2010, 22:08:26 UTC
so... how exactly were the vagina mirrors supposed to criticize religion?

no really, how?

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mothwentbad November 12 2010, 22:33:02 UTC
Because they listed "religious conditioning" among things that may have caused them to be afraid of their own cunts, or something. Not that I can think of anything in particular that's specifically against looking at your own cunt, but on the other hand, "lust = adultery in your heart" seems to be a pretty firmly anti-wanking sort of statement if you interpret it at all the way I would.

I don't actually remember whether it was a Jesus thing or religion in general that the detractor was up in arms on behalf of.

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mothwentbad November 12 2010, 22:34:00 UTC
The wording of the vagina mirror project specifically included "religious conditioning". Which... well, though shit. Conditioning, it happens, it sucks. Welcome to college.

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st_rev November 12 2010, 22:50:23 UTC
Welcome to college, where they will break your previous conditioning and give you all-new conditioning! It is actually not unreasonable for someone invested in the child's original brainwashing community to see this as a threat.

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ellisbell November 12 2010, 23:41:51 UTC
It's kind of a generational joke these days to make fun of the Judy Blume coming-of-age books like "Are You There God? It's Me Margaret", but if it weren't for that book and a few of her others, I don't know how I would have found out about a LOT of my questions in early adolescence. I don't know if my mom just assumed handing me a pamphlet would cover it or if I was too embarrassed to approach her with my questions (I mean, she never brought it up, so I think I was afraid to).

Anyway, I don't think my mom didn't want me to know about my body; I think she just didn't know how to tell me. I've got a daughter now, so I'd better figure it out soon enough.

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mothwentbad November 12 2010, 23:44:47 UTC
Hmmmm. Well, there's the internet these days. Half of it is wrong, but at least the internet isn't hopelessly tongue-tied.

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sarakate November 13 2010, 02:47:02 UTC
I have found that these sorts of conversations are often best held in the car, where you have a ready-made excuse not to look at each other. It seriously does make it easier to spit out what needs saying.

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ellisbell November 13 2010, 02:56:41 UTC
good to know! ;)

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