How the Republicans are fighting back

May 07, 2009 08:51

After a very strange discussion with a couple of neighbors and friends online last night, I realized how the Republicans are going to win the off year elections ( Read more... )

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drsulak May 7 2009, 14:06:46 UTC
I really like the gun/ammo rumors. Hey folks - follow the money - who's getting rich (or will get rich) on those rumors? I think I'm going to start a rumor that Obama is going to outlaw a certain type of circuit board...

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rmeidaking May 7 2009, 14:19:45 UTC
No kidding.

I accidentally watched about five minutes of Fox News the other day. It's like it's a parody of itself. It would be hilarious if it weren't for folks around me taking it seriously.

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reanastormblade May 7 2009, 15:20:30 UTC
To be honest, I thought this was the entire strategy for the Republican presidential campaign. It didn't work back in November - hopefully, it won't work in 2010 & 2012 but they do have a lot more time to become "truth".

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raist_ May 7 2009, 15:40:37 UTC
The gun thing is about the only bit I've really believed, mostly because Obama has stated that's it on his list of things he'd like to do. I imagine he's got more then a bit on his plate at the moment to start worrying about gun control though.

But with anything... a couple people can turn anything into a full out panic.

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mbcrui May 7 2009, 15:46:01 UTC
Obama has stated that's it on his list of things he'd like to do

When? Where? When did he say that?

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raist_ May 7 2009, 19:04:42 UTC
It was back during his campaigning. He also stated (in those same months) that he was against guns, yada yada. Which is why when he won, everyone started buying up weapons and ammo either before he took office, or shortly into his term.

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mbcrui May 7 2009, 19:16:17 UTC
Really, when, Will. What day? In what place? If he said it during the campaign, it's on the record somewhere.

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marsgov May 7 2009, 20:56:12 UTC
Let's see: so many errors, so little time.

First, you imply that these rumors are Official Republican Party Policy, as per the headline of "How the Republicans are Fighting Back." Please provide the smallest smidgen of evidence that these are official rumors.

Apropos of that, the $1 million/person rumor started during the earliest days of the bailout. Every newspaper in the US printed stories about the bailout cash, and how N billions of dollars worked out to X thousands per person. If you want scary, try to work out the real amount of money at risk - the real amount of money that's been given as loans as well as that's been guaranteed. The Obama administration refuses to say, but investigative work in the financial press reveals that the numbers appear to be on the order of $10 trillion. The US population is 300 million. Do the math; but I saw calculations floating around about how the numbers were in the range of $500,000 per person, pre-Election Day, which explains the current ( ... )

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mbcrui May 8 2009, 12:33:50 UTC
Please provide the smallest smidgen of evidence that these are official rumors.
Fox news. While you may not consider that to be "officially Republican" many people believe it is.
Emission caps will, in fact, raise the price of electricity.
Up here, at least, we have a clean, cheap alternative to the old coal fired plants and that's hydro. The Con Ed plant in the Soo runs at 1/3 capacity while providing electricity to the entire eastern portion of the state, including a supplement to the coal fired plants in the Detroit area. The engineers there have been grumbling for years that the one plant could generate enough electricity for the rest of the UP and a good chunk of the LP. It hasn't been "cost effective" to run the lines. It's cheaper to keep running the old, outdated 1950's plants than it is to upgrade them or to look at a cheaper alternative.

You've been complaining from Day One about the horrors of free trade.You have never ever heard me complain about free trade. Not ever. I've been an advocate of it since I first ( ... )

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marsgov May 8 2009, 13:54:41 UTC
I apologize about the free trade remark: I had you confused with rmediakingAs for carbon caps and the price of electricity, which is of course not the only price that will rise with carbon caps, you're far too narrow focused. So, the UP has some hydro, therefore the price caps won't affect you? First of all, that's a startling imposition on the rest of the country ("who cares if they suffer, I have cheap hydro"). Secondly, you forget the law of supply and demand: as other forms of electricity becomes more scarce or more costly your hydro prices will rise because bidding for it will rise. Or if the government imposes price controls you'll find it more scarce ( ... )

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backrubbear May 8 2009, 15:28:30 UTC
As for health care, the government's payments to Medicare don't cover the costs, which is why health care prices keep rising for everyone else as provider scramble to cover their costs and stay in business.

Also given your tone, I'm surprised you're not railing against insurance as a business. It artificially distorts the health care market.

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