Supernatural 5.22

May 13, 2010 22:47

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ficwriter1966 May 14 2010, 02:51:03 UTC
So much, much WORD to everything you said.

Ah, Kripke. You did say, "When I'm left to my own devices, you get 'Boogeyman.'"

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, indeed. What a colossal mess.

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maychorian May 14 2010, 03:59:18 UTC
I'm not even mad, just disappointed. :(

(LOL, sound like my mom...)

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lexhibition May 14 2010, 02:53:38 UTC
I'm still so horrified at the thought of Cas going back to Heaven. It's exactly the same as coming back to life a few seconds after dying: it just undercuts everything that was tragic and heartbreaking about his story arch. I wanted him to find faith in himself, learn to rely on his own strength and grow away from his daddy issues. And now God has brought him back and he's going straight back to heaven. Without a goodbye hug.

D:

I mean, there were lots of things I liked about this, but it was just...very anticlimatic and I totally agree about not wanting Chuck as God!

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maychorian May 14 2010, 04:02:35 UTC
YES, I totally feel like they just destroyed all of the lovely work they had done with Castiel's character. He had been learning to be human, to trust Sam and Dean and humanity, to have faith in himself. And then--BAM! He got restored by God, AGAIN, and back to Heaven he goes. I just...I feel like this is the LEAST interesting thing they could have done with him.

And yes, okay, I can admit that this is just not what I wanted. I wanted SamnDeannCastiel together, Team Will Forever, and instead all of three of them are separated and Castiel will probably never really part of the team again. :( I hate that.

Oh damn. I think I might have turned into a Cas!girl over the course of this season. And here I thought I was always about the bros....

ASLDKJH. I'm going to have to think about this some more.

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ophite68 May 15 2010, 01:50:16 UTC
Ah, God once he explored it, fell in love with the concept and possibilities of free will. But there are very obviously problems implementing it in heaven. I can see how God might want the lessons Cas learned on earth to be seeded into heaven via Cas.

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tohr May 14 2010, 02:56:11 UTC
I agree with every fiber *hehe* I HATE that Chuck as God mess (cause that's what I thought it was, mess). Most of the episode was amazing and heartbreaking, but those ending revelations were like "WTF???ARE YOU SERIOUS?".

I also agree with the AU in the Harry Potter fandom, I cannot stomach reading a canon fic.

I just wonder was it planned to have Sam and/or Lucifer standing outside Lisa's house. Or is that a added development since the show was renewed?

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maychorian May 14 2010, 04:04:37 UTC
Personally, I think God brought Sam back, and it's gonna be just SamnDean together. Which...is good. But I'll miss all the secondary characters they had built up around themselves. Especially Castiel.

I'm kind of selfish in my disappointment here.

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sunnyzim May 14 2010, 19:37:19 UTC
I'm hoping that God brought back Sam too but just wondering - why did the lights flicker then?.....And he looked kind of sinister - but maybe that's just me....oh Sammy:'-( SNIFFFFF.

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saintsghost May 14 2010, 02:58:38 UTC
I liked it but I guess I sorta like a the little twists the show gives me and go with the flow. but as they say 'you can't please everyone' lol. But hey glad you will stil stick with the show, I know I am. :) On for another 100 episodes!!! :) :) :)

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maychorian May 14 2010, 04:05:52 UTC
I've always been very "go with the flow" too. A lot of times I'll finish an episode thinking "MAN SO AWESOME," then come online and be confused by the disappointment from my fellow fans. But this time, yeah, I didn't get what I want and I'm kicking my heels on the floor. BAAWWW. :(

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vikki May 14 2010, 02:59:55 UTC
I saw the reset coming, so - yeah. as soon as Bobby died I knew there would be a reset. I dunno. Overall I liked it.

I disagree with how you feel about Castiel - not because if he had died I would have been heartbroken but rather because I don't feel like the end of his story was like, and now I'm done with you. People are like DID YOU LEARN NOTHING? But I feel like, he did. At the end, finally, it was about his own free will. Dean taught him that. He wants to go back to heaven and set things right, and that made me happy.

I'll be sad if we never see him again because there needs to be a bit more closure on his arc, IMHO. But otherwise, I was happy about that. I realize I am going to be very alone on this.

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numbuh12 May 14 2010, 03:09:52 UTC
*peeks in*

I feel the same way about Castiel. I don't think he's gone for good- I think his faith has been restored, but he's also learned the difference and grey area between free will and blind faith. He also knows that he's needed more in Heaven right now because Michael is stuck in Hell, and they need all the help they can get.

So, yeah. I just wanted to let you know that you're not alone.

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vikki May 14 2010, 03:44:15 UTC
I don't think he's gone for good- I think his faith has been restored, but he's also learned the difference and grey area between free will and blind faith.
Man, I really hope so on all counts.

Also I liked his last speech to Dean, which really summed up everything: Dean chose freedom over peace, and - that's what he got, in all respects. From a cinematic standpoint, it's a nice bookend to 4.22 - Castiel offered peace and Dean said no, and in the end, he's stuck on Earth without his brother. Which is awful and sad, but - it is what he chose. It's interesting.

Thank you so much for the supportive response! I'm feeling kind of let down by fandom right now. It sucks to have so few people willing to talk about the good points. .__.

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maychorian May 14 2010, 03:57:42 UTC
Ah, hon, I'm sorry! There were parts I loved, there really were! I think God brought Sam back and he and Dean will be off hunting together soon. And I did see the reset coming, yeah, I knew enough about Season 6 to know that they'd been talking about getting rid of all the angels and demons and going straight back to just Sam and Dean, on the road together. I just didn't like the way they did it, that's all. And that's only me and my expectation, nothing else. It didn't go the way I wanted it to and that's what I'm reacting to. But yes, there was a lot to love!

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