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timtwoface April 25 2007, 20:07:15 UTC
I just want my "Long Halloween" multi-part storyline that I heard rumoured before. Choosing Martian Manhunter as the first guy to be introduced on the show is an interesting way to go, but dang...I'm not really a JL fan anyway. Considering all the excellent unused characters that have yet to be on the show (namely villains like Two-Face, Scarecrow, Mad Hatter, Ra's al Ghul, etc) and how the show is already often watered down due to the likes of Batgirl and Robin, I think throwing in the JL is a little excessive.

Of course, this show, as good as it sometimes is (and it IS), it's obviously more driven by gimmicks and toylines rather than storylines. The old DCAU went that route eventually as well, but it took them years longer to get there.

-Tim

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mattzimmer April 25 2007, 20:49:04 UTC
I don't think JLU ever really got to the point where it was driven by the toyline. And lord knows it COULD have been. But they've consistantly and quite often used characters that had no toy based on them simply because they were interesting.

The Long Halloween is a comic based Batman story, correct? I've never read it but I think I'd like to see it animated.

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timtwoface April 26 2007, 01:06:41 UTC
You've never read the Long Halloween? Dude, you should. It would totally fit any Batman continuity. It's a murder mystery set in Batman's first year, and features all of the notable villains in supporting roles as part of a battle between Gotham's Organized Crime and the "Freaks" (Arkhamites). The other major subplot is that it's a detailed retelling of Harvey Dent's dealings with the mob, and his eventual fall from grace; since he hasn't been on the show yet, this would be a perfect way to introduce him into the show without rewriting much of the story. The only changes needed would be finding a way to utilize Robin and Batgirl, since they aren't in the comic version.

Check it out, at any rate. 'Tis a classic and I haven't heard any Batfans disliking this storyline.

-Tim

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mattzimmer April 26 2007, 11:51:25 UTC
I've never liked the comics. I've always thought they were too violent and disturbing. That's part of the reason I like the cartoons so much. It sounds like a good story though.

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style92 April 26 2007, 01:35:31 UTC
Well, you're being not too petty about it, so that's good. I'm sorry, it's petty, but I can still remember you're reactions to The Batman from years ago even BEFORE it premeired, crazy stuff like "the batman was replacing btas" even though btas was cancelled years ago and they were putting it out on DVD.

I also think you over estimate corporate synergy. CN and KWB are still separate entities.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this Justice League stuff, should be quite fun and not neccissarily derivative of JL/U. And I'm sorry, that Bats/Supes antaganism stuff goes back to the post crisis comics of the 80s. It was hardly something TNBSA invented.

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style92 April 26 2007, 01:38:29 UTC
That Superman and Batman image is awesome by the way. Just wish I could enlarge it.

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mattzimmer April 26 2007, 11:56:15 UTC
Superman looks a lot like a mature version of the Legion of Superheroes Superman. That surprised me.

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90scartoonman April 26 2007, 02:05:36 UTC
I was going to say that. I'm not positive, but I believe it was Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns that showed the adversarial relationship Superman and Batman had, which sort of bled over to the mainstream comics while Batman himself was becoming a bit darker.

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90scartoonman April 26 2007, 02:08:42 UTC
I always love seeing new interpretations of characters, particularly Flash and Green Lantern. I'm kind of hoping this doesn't take too much time away from the Batman/Robin father/son dynamic with a young Dick, a show I feel The Batman's done better than any other non-comic Batman property.

You shouldn't let your love of the DCAU ruin what could be potentially good stories. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

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mattzimmer April 26 2007, 11:48:30 UTC
I'll try but I've ALWAYS been scared of trying new things. It's the way I'm wired.

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stinkingbishop April 26 2007, 17:39:24 UTC
Is it just me, or does Superman look a little like Michael Jackson in that picture?

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mattzimmer April 26 2007, 19:52:14 UTC
It's not just you.

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style92 April 26 2007, 21:06:11 UTC
yes it is. I'm looking at it, and I don't see how anyone thinks he looks remotely like any incarnation of michael jackson.

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mattzimmer April 26 2007, 21:33:41 UTC
He has a Jeri curl.

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