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luvlylady

Smoking and Drinking....

Jun 14, 2007 15:43

Tonight is the last night that you are allowed to smoke in public bars ( Read more... )

Comments 15

elijahdprophet June 14 2007, 21:59:17 UTC

As a non smoker (mostly) I find this an idiotic law.

I can almost understand restaurants, since people go there with children, etc.

I don't understand why bars, a place where people go primarily to destroy their bodies with toxins, must be free of smoke. I do not think it is a god given (or state given) right to go to bars, if you don't like smoking don't go to bars.

Does this ban cover smoking in the street in front of the bars? If so I think bar owners are going to see business dropping.

edecho56 June 14 2007, 22:27:38 UTC

I think bars are going to lose a lot of business because of this. I for one don't fancy the idea of having to run outside everytime I want to smoke. I can really see it getting old fast and just staying home.

killbox June 14 2007, 22:58:03 UTC

unfortunately, the statistics people proposing these bans keep coming up with don't support that. (i'm not saying they are right or not skewed!)

There are plenty of people who are too wimpy for a little smoke and avoid bars/clubs for that reason. (now i don't know if they are as gluttonous of drinkers, or if they stay as long).. but im sure they factor in..

killbox June 14 2007, 22:28:22 UTC

no, but loitering laws would apply.. ;-D

Thread 6

ilcylic June 15 2007, 03:18:42 UTC

The "City Property" part is the only part of the smoking ban I agree with.

luvlylady June 15 2007, 04:53:27 UTC

I agree with not in front of the courthouse or even Civic Plaza, I'm just not sure I can agree with in public parks. I mean the odds that I am going to be smoking right next to someone at a park are slim to none. Though, there are those who don't have respect of other peoples personal bubbles when it comes to it. I have always been fairly good about keeping it a way from small children and those who do not like it. Also, one of the things I was taught at a young age was to never drop a lit smoke in the woods and to take the butt with you. It's become a "dirty" habbit because there are those who are just plain lazy.

ilcylic June 15 2007, 11:09:02 UTC

By which I mostly meant "I agree they can make the rules there, because it's their property."

luvlylady June 15 2007, 14:03:46 UTC

Fair enough. :>

elegantelbow June 15 2007, 05:49:00 UTC

I took my mom out for dinner at our regular bar for our last dinner with her smoking at the table.

luvlylady June 15 2007, 14:09:26 UTC

I mean, it's not all that bad. I want to quit smoking so it's only going to make it that much easier. I just don't like that there is such restriction on it. If it's that big of a deal why not just out law it. I am reminded of how the giant companies got a way with firing people who were smoking in their free time. I can understand restaurants not wanting you to smoke during a shift. It smells bad but really in bars? I just don't see why it's that horrible. I know that there are those who have a serious allergic reaction to the smoke. Though, there are clubs that had made the choice to become non-smoking anyway. OPM on Fridays and Saturdays has the upstairs as non-smoking but you have to walk through the crowd of smokers to get there.
Anyway... It's just weird to me...

elegantelbow June 15 2007, 16:39:03 UTC

I think we all know where prohibition leads. Outlawing tobacco would only funnel money into illegal operations that provided it ( ... )

botkiller June 17 2007, 06:36:54 UTC

Uh, I hate to be the devils advocate in some way here, but please take this with salt ( ... )

luvlylady June 17 2007, 16:42:48 UTC

"but this is barely the tip of the iceberg of the many "rights" we are losing day by day ( ... )