i thought i posted a comment but i think it got erased! i was only saying that i don't remember back to go very well, so i think it might have come out after i wasn't as obsessed anymore. mostly i just remember the french/cat song from CC! so weird, dude! we come from a weird musical era.
i am somewhat similar but less hardcore about song lyrics initially, but i HAVE to know them fairly immediately. and I get mad at lyrics all the time. or the people who write them. I get mad at the use of disability, disfiguration, death, violence/abuse and rape but i've generally felt like most people don't at all. i think people tend to have very liberal use of abuse, like it exists in all relationships or something, like its hurting someone's feelings, which is fucking crap.
this post is one of the more important reasons i really like you.
oh! thanks, tara. i had a feeling i could count on you to concur about this stuff. and yes, i completely agree re: abuse stuff. i hope you come visit so we can talk more in person! <3
i've dealt with a bundle of death lately - ever since early 2006, starting with hearing about a lot of deaths among peers, moving on to dealing with the ramifications of death, and, at a surprising pace, having people close to me and close to loved ones die
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you're not being inarticulate at all, and i'm sorry to hear you've had so much death to contend with in recent years. it is inspiring to hear how metaphor has played a useful part in your process of thinking about death and life cycles, and has ultimately been helpful for you in coping and processing.
i totally understand about the cd-buying, looking, listening process.
well, we should meet again! i don't even remember how we became LJ friends, and honestly i think you're the only one of my LJ people who isn't like, an actual, real-life, everyday friend. wanna have coffee? oh, and play a show together? xo
i think we became lj friends somehow through meredith - that's my guess. i'd love to get coffee sometime - january somewhere? my work schedule is pretty flexible and keeps me in manhattan. and, oh yes! i would love love love to play a show together. i think we might take a step back from shows for a month or two, but maybe feb or march?
Have you ever read Susan Sontag's "Illness as Metaphor/AIDS and its Metaphors"? I haven't, even though it's been sitting my my bookshelf for 10 years. Which is pretty lame, as metaphor was more or less what I majored in in college.
Well, I think about this a lot. I'm less strict than I used to be in some ways, just because too many songs were getting ruined for me and I can't deal with it. "King's Crossing" is one of my absolute favorite Elliott smith songs of all time, since I had it on some bootleg way pre-Basement, but then on Basement the production was so clear that I could tell that he was saying "keeps a fat man feeding in Beverly Hills" and i was like, god damn it, and now he's dead and I can;t even write him a letter about how can't he change that to "vampire" or something. It almost wrecked the song for me. But then it didn't. Somehow I got to a point of love the song, hate that metaphorical choice.
Also, as everyone knows, I hate it when songwriters use sex work as a metaphor. I mean, theoretically it could be done in a way that's ok, I'm not x-ing off anything absolutely, but generally? When actual sex worker's voices are marginalized, but their existence is used all over town by other people as a metaphor for toxins or despair or lack of self-
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i totally hear you re: elliott smith and fat-phobia in general is such a fucking pain in the ass song-wrecker. but i get the effort to hold both things at once. deal with this with movies and books too all the time...
re: sex work metaphors, i totally disagree because you have forgotten one of the greatest songs in history: ROOOOOXXX-ANNE. come on, it's on papa's list of "near-perfect songs." how could he be wrong?!
(i shouldn't have to do this but... THE ABOVE IS A JOKE.... in case yr not in our family and think maybe i'm serious.)
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this post is one of the more important reasons i really like you.
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i totally understand about the cd-buying, looking, listening process.
well, we should meet again! i don't even remember how we became LJ friends, and honestly i think you're the only one of my LJ people who isn't like, an actual, real-life, everyday friend. wanna have coffee? oh, and play a show together? xo
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Also, as everyone knows, I hate it when songwriters use sex work as a metaphor. I mean, theoretically it could be done in a way that's ok, I'm not x-ing off anything absolutely, but generally? When actual sex worker's voices are marginalized, but their existence is used all over town by other people as a metaphor for toxins or despair or lack of self- ( ... )
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i totally hear you re: elliott smith and fat-phobia in general is such a fucking pain in the ass song-wrecker. but i get the effort to hold both things at once. deal with this with movies and books too all the time...
re: sex work metaphors, i totally disagree because you have forgotten one of the greatest songs in history: ROOOOOXXX-ANNE. come on, it's on papa's list of "near-perfect songs." how could he be wrong?!
(i shouldn't have to do this but... THE ABOVE IS A JOKE.... in case yr not in our family and think maybe i'm serious.)
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