#022 Art has a strong odor!

[lordsluk]

Every human being, even Jesus and Buddha were motivated by self-interest. Human beings can never get rid of their egos. You can maybe let it go for short periods of time, but, never destroy it (unless you are putting a bullet in your head.) You need your ego to survive anyway why would you want to get rid of it? What benefit do you think you would

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[akaiyume]

Every human being, even Jesus and Buddha were motivated by self-interest. Human beings can never get rid of their egos.I see self-interest and ego (seeing self as inherently separate from the world and others) as indirectly proportional. The greater the degree of ego one has the more one is forced to define themselves in comparison to everything outside of them instead of in their own terms. Acting from ego doesn't mean acting for the self, it means acting to get approval (to be seen as better in comparison to things outside the self) from the outside world. Self-interest is the part of someone that wipes their ass because letting shit sit there is uncomfortable and causes sores and decay and other nasty stuff. Ego is the part of someone that wipes their ass because of what others would think if they let it sit there. Ego is what makes the world one big orgy of manipulation (including the type of manipulation that those who claim to speak for Buddha and Jesus do. Which is why priesthoods and religions seem so out of line with

[sammhain]

I think you kind of answered your own question. Really good art is more important than the artist because it is in so many ways bigger than the artist who creates it.

I don't think its necessarily pretentious in facyt I think it would be more pretentious for an artist to focus more on hirself than on hir art.

The thing is you can argue that everything boils down to self interest but that can't ever argue away a belief someone might hold to the contrary.

I also think that when you're really involved in the creative process you are lost in one of those brief ego-less moments. I see it as similar to gnosis. I don't see it as the best state for everything, but its every bit as crucial and important as our intellect, and rational self interest.

All these aspects of personality have a role and I think we become happier and more whole people when we allow all of them to work in concert.

Andy Warhol told me to say this

[lordsluk]

I don't like religiouse morality preached to me in art. Some people think popular art is a degradation of "real" art. I think that's bull shit.

I like Dali's Ego - It was huge!

I also don't think entertainment is a lower grade of art than art hidden in a gallery or worse - a museum!

Sluk - "Andy warhol told me to say this" - Meister

Re: Andy Warhol told me to say this

[sammhain]

I agree totally, but I also think the so called lower art form are also more important than the artists that create them.

I have no real issues with artists being ego centric either but
i care more about Dali's art than his ego.

[hxaosanto]

"(Can you believe smegma is not in the spell checker?)"

Well, I mean, come on...it sounds like it is spelled: smeg-ma.

;-P

Ah...add "smegma" to the "Woefully Underused Vocabulary List", my friend.