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logan607 December 7 2006, 17:27:14 UTC
Really? You seem young - that's a good thing. The funeral thing is not.

I just read your post on the Kim family. I was pulling for him too. I thought that he would make it.

It made me so sad because he obviously loved his family so much.

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jaerik December 7 2006, 23:07:01 UTC
For some bizarre reason, six people from my graduating high school class (83 total) have killed themselves in the 8 years since. I went to every one of their funerals. It was... surreal.

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logan607 December 8 2006, 00:27:32 UTC
That is one strange story. Was there any link between them? That's just sad and crazy.

You know, they asked a bunch of people that jumped off bridges and survived what their last thoughts were as they were falling and a lot of them said something like, man everything I hate about myself I can change...except this (jumping).

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jaerik December 8 2006, 05:34:29 UTC
Nope, no link whatsoever. Some were emo back in high school, some were really popular, some were introverts, some were social butterflies. No rhyme nor reason.

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veijukka December 8 2006, 03:48:46 UTC
Thank you for this post, the thoughts and the pictures. I've had a rough day, but the kind quickly forgotten because nothing really bad happened. Thank God for this day, and any day when I don't get those calls.

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logan607 December 8 2006, 06:08:03 UTC
I was at church the other night and I almost broke down thinking about what would happen if I got such a call. I know it's going to come (that's what being human is all about) but I dread it nonetheless.

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veijukka December 8 2006, 06:22:14 UTC
I admit I dread it too. I dread it more now than I did even a year ago. I try not to, because I don't ever want the fear of loss to get in the way of how I feel about people or the way I feel about my life. But that fear is there, nonetheless.

Do you go to church...aside from funerals? I haven't been in a long time. I'm not really sure how I feel about church, and I'm thinking it's about time to figure it out.

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logan607 December 8 2006, 06:32:06 UTC
I was actually going to be a pastor instead of a lawyer; I have relatives that are missionaries, deacons and pastors.

I'm too much in the world to be a good pastor. I think that churchs would do a lot better if people who aren't fit to be priests and pastors, myself included, realized that.

I admit, I'm a bit too much of a fan of the female form to do the right thing all the time.

St. Augustine (a catholic) said it best, "Grant me chastity and continence...but not yet."

I hope to be a good man someday...just not yet.

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logan607 December 8 2006, 06:05:27 UTC
I think, though, that he got what he really, really wanted - which is that his family be ok. It's still tragic but that's something, I think.

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twice is too many times already divinelv December 8 2006, 06:33:01 UTC
I never knew what it would feel like to get a phone call like that. Until it actually happened. There are times when just the mere thought of another call like that makes me want to retreat from the world and just hide.

Your way of looking at the story of David is admirable but I still really really hate the thought of that call.

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Re: twice is too many times already logan607 December 8 2006, 07:15:08 UTC
I totally hear you. It's a horrible thing that you don't realize how horrible until you're older. Those words I put up in the bullet points, I can't even imagine hearing them.

I feel old.

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