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lassarina

blah echo chamber blah - potentially triggering

Sep 29, 2009 14:09

I am absolutely sickened and disgusted by this game of "support the rapist" that is going on in Switzerland re: Polanski.

Too bad I am also unsurprised by the game of "support the rapist."

( rant goes here )

dickheads ahoy, the stupid it burns, wtf, your shipment of fail has arrived, don't be silly--women aren't people, argh!, rant

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trekqueen September 29 2009, 19:52:52 UTC

I was just talking about this with rhapsody11 earlier this morning. What is very interesting here is the fact people are leaving out the rape aspect of it and many reporters are just stating he had sex with a 13yr old girl. Um, there's a lot more to it! His initial charge was rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance (methaqualone) to a minor. Only was it made to the lesser charge because he pled guilty to a plea bargain deal. He was hoping to get probation only and then found out the judge and DA wanted to give him a more lengthy sentence, which prompted his departure.

so yes, either way it was rape no matter how much reporters, politicians, Whoopi Goldberg... whoever phrases it any other way.

lassarina September 29 2009, 19:57:42 UTC

I just. God. rape apology why does this happen auuuuuugh.

blah echo chamber blah - potentially triggering owlmoose September 29 2009, 20:29:17 UTC

I think the unwillingness of the media to refer to incidents like this one as "rape" is really key, and really sickening. Another good recent example is the Mackenzie Phillips story. She was raped and drugged by her father, and the majority of media outlets had headlines like "mackenzie Phillips had a sexual relationship with her father. According to Sady at Tiger Beatdown (I unfortunately don't have the link to hand) only two publications used the word rape. Which is totally part of the problem, because it allows us to continue the fiction that there's some gray area of "coerced sex" that's not " really" rape.

Re: blah echo chamber blah - potentially triggering lassarina September 29 2009, 20:37:13 UTC

Also, a lot of people are appropriating the victim's words that she just wants this done with, and using them to argue that the pursuit of justice is no longer necessary since the victim herself has forgiven him.

BULLSHIT.

He committed a crime. He admitted to the crime in court. And personally I would be delighted BEYOND WORDS if he were to spend the rest of his life in jail for fleeing sentencing in addition to the crimes already committed--because that is how the legal system is supposed to work.

The Mackenzie Phillips story is hurting my heart so much. I like how the fact that she chose to continue/was coerced into continuing that relationship somehow negates all the years of abuse, all the drug abuse, and the initial rape. Cause that's totally how it works. Just like how some people like to put the blame for domestic abuse on the abused person--clearly zie could have just got up and left, right? I mean it's not like zie was chained in the house or something.

Fffffft people make me so ANGRY. Appropriate default icon is

rhapsody11 September 29 2009, 20:52:26 UTC

Polanski should have known better that his past experience in Poland would not make him justice free. He committed a crime back then and instead of opting to negotiate further, he fled, lived a comfy life while all the time justice was not served. He knew darn well what he was doing back then, so he should sit out his time in jail, it is as as simple as that. Lady Justice is there for everyone: no exceptions.

lassarina September 29 2009, 20:55:20 UTC

Except Justice isn't blind, at least not here. *sigh* This entire situation is wretched.

puella_nerdii September 29 2009, 22:28:21 UTC

Yeah, it's pretty fucking disgusting. And like trekqueen says, a lot of news outlets continue to report his crime as statutory rape, which, while still skeevy beyond belief, definitely doesn't convey the fact that he DRUGGED AND RAPED A LITTLE GIRL.

That is not okay. I don't care how much you like his movies. (They're good movies. That doesn't make him not a rapist.) I don't care how much he's contributed to the art. I don't care what he's been through. NONE OF THESE THINGS MAKE RAPE OKAY. IN FACT, NOTHING MAKES RAPE OKAY.

I just. I hate my industry sometimes. Being an artist is in no way license to be a scum-sucking bastard. In fact, I'd argue that artists should have more moral responsibility, rather than less. Ugh. Just ugh. Like I needed more reasons to avoid Hollywood like the plague.

lassarina September 30 2009, 07:39:18 UTC

CAN I KILL IT WITH FIRE

PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE

drakonlily September 30 2009, 03:38:36 UTC

Don't. Even. FUCKING. Oh this makes me so goddamn angry
AND IF HE GETS EXTRADITED THEY WILL JUST GIVE HIM HIS DAMN PLEA BARGAIN!??? IS THIS EVEN TRUE?! WTBF? 40 days in jail.

for RAPE.

yeah.

*Rage*

lassarina September 30 2009, 07:39:50 UTC

*froth froth froth*

I have to imagine they'd tack *something* on for evasion of justice and flight, but ffffft.

drakonlily September 30 2009, 13:32:16 UTC

I hate to say it, but can we just like... make him give like a million dollars to a rape crisis group? That'd hurt him more than 40 days (down to probably 20 days) in jail...

lassarina September 30 2009, 15:52:21 UTC

Make it $10mil PLUS the jail sentence and you might be on to something.

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jpfuel September 30 2009, 07:03:49 UTC

Our "betters" feel they have this privilege. One can ass rape a 13 yr old and if you make a few movies, and hold all the leftist views so popular with his supporters, you are allowed to do what ever you want.
Whoopi will claim it "Wasn't Rape Rape" so it's ok.

These are also the same people who pass nanny laws "For the sake of the Children"(tm). These are also the some of the same people who will state that even consentual sex is rape if they are in a group of (as Rush calls em) FemiNazis.
I don't think I have enough Lead Pills to dispense with this diseased group.

lassarina September 30 2009, 07:41:44 UTC

Alright, I'm taking exception to this because i suspect that the estimable Mr. Limbaugh would lump me right in with those FemiNazis. There is a difference between coerced consent and true consent. If in fact this girl gave any kind of consent, it was the former, and thus, THIS IS STILL RAPE. Giving someone drugs or alcohol until they are incapable of giving consent IS RAPE.

...I'm going to assume that my tiredness is causing me to misread your comment, and that you are not in fact trying to argue that he did not in fact rape this girl.

jpfuel September 30 2009, 08:34:42 UTC

I think you miss my point ( ... )

lassarina September 30 2009, 15:51:36 UTC

Okay. I owe you an apology, as I clearly should not have been trying to respond to comments at 3 am when I was a zombie. I misunderstood some of the references, and that's completely on me. Makes much more sense now, and I agree.

(WTF, by the way, at the notion that any sex is rape. I am so confused by that! I! What!)

I really fail to comprehend the "he has suffered enough by spending 30 years running from the law" argument. Seriously, people? REALLY?

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