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[kayliemalinza]

Ok, this is random and a little mean, but I love that DMC canonically states that on Will and Elizabeth's wedding day, Jack is nowhere near them, much less secretly attending due to personal invitation. Just a little "Booyah!" to all the fans who think that Jack actually likes the whelps and vice versa. Jack is wary of Elizabeth and bored by Will.

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[kayliemalinza]

I think the fact that Elizabeth was the person to finally set him up tickles Jack
Oh, definitely! Jack's amused by Elizabeth, and sees a lot of himself in her: "Peas in a pod" "pirate", but I think that's also why he's a little wary. I think he realizes that Elizabeth is more ruthless and dangerous than he is.

The end of AWE though, where Jack does step in to 'save' Will
Ok, there is room to say that Jack is fond of Will; moreso than Elizabeth, certainly, and Jack has a certain amount of fondness leftover from Bootstrap. Mostly though, it goes back to Jack being generally a nice person who doesn't want to see people die. Also, Davy Jones needed to be killed, and Jack wasn't so sure he wanted to do it (he was hesitating before Will got stabbed) so really, it just worked out to everyone's advantage.

I think that Jack's base "setting" so to speak is to like people and (before he was mutineed upon) trust them. So he likes you until you do something he doesn't like, as opposed to, say, Barbossa who doesn't like anyone until they do

[omnipresentdmat]

You know, upon further thought, I think you may be right. I like the fanon where they're friends a good deal of the time, but it's not really very canon. Hmm. I'm going to have to think about this some more.

[kayliemalinza]

Muahaha. I love spreading canonical cynicism.

Also, your icon? ::sporfle::

[omnipresentdmat]

And I don't mind being made more cynical. It makes things less...pointy. Or something. And my icon? Yay for random macroness?

[kayliemalinza]

HA. Screw cats, let's just make Pirate macros!

[blaquestarr]

I think Jack doesn't "like" Will, but actually cares about him. I know - big *NuH-UH!*, but hear me out. He cares about Will like you would an annoying, spoiled little brother who doesn't listen to you, but you can count on to make things worse which might actually add to your benefit when your parents get mad at you for him doing something stupid. Jack so feels responsible for Will because Jack has some history with Will's dad (who is a pirate brother) and that Jack has a big hand in transforming Will into a pirate. Yes, Jack is self-serving, and he will put his needs before others, but Jack is so off-beat that I don't think he even realizes that he has a moral code

[kayliemalinza]

I know - big *NuH-UH!*, but hear me out.
I wasn't even going to say "Nuh-UH" but then you said it and I had to!

Jack is so off-beat that I don't think he even realizes that he has a moral code.I like that

[1snippygecko]

I think you hit the nail on the head.

[kayliemalinza]

:D

[blaquestarr]

You and your brother get along to well. :p
You have to look at dysfunctional siblings. Often times, the younger sibling doesn't admire the older, but tries to out do them to prove their worth or in spite. You have to admit, in a family with Will and Jack, boooooyyyy would it be dysfunctional. Also the age difference would be sort of like Will growing up an only child, with Jack reappearing and trying to take control that he's not use to relinquishing to anyone.

As far as Jack claiming responsibility, I use that loosely, seeing that "responsibility" isn't Jack's strongest suit. I feel that Jack kind of thinks, "I brought you here, I guess I should help you get out." Any examples of Jack sticking his neck out for Will in CotBP I can think of right now can also be used for Jack's own self-serving purposes... I need to review DMC more, because everything is fuzzy there.

[kayliemalinza]

Ah, I see. That all makes more sense now.

Although I really, really like the brother metaphor applied to Will and James, where James takes his big-brother position very seriously and Will adores his older brother, but eventually grows up and becomes his own person and James accepts that, but still pushes Will around when he's out of line.

Will and Jack? STEPBROTHERS! Or half brothers! Some sort of disconnect there, to explain why they're so radically different and why Will is resentful of Jack.