in which Katta is growly as all fuck

[kattahj]

Okay, so someone writes a pretty fun article comparing the sex potential of Avatar and Sherlock Holmes. I, as the idiot I am, read the comments.

FUCK I HATE PEOPLE.

I particularly hate this one:

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[love2loveher]

I. Must. See. This. Movie.

[kattahj]

Well, y'know, hoyay is subjective. So there are people who say they don't see it at all. They're just two guys who are friends... and one gets jealous when the other has a girlfriend... and said girlfriend acknowledges that "you love him as much as I do"... and they have each other's wallets and clothes and stuff... and at one point one of them may grope in the other's trouser pocket and tell him not to get excited... but HoYay is subjective, really.

And then of course there are the various interviews and such...

[therru]

Oh! Thanks for those other two video links! Gods, I love how cool and funny they both are about the "subtext". And how completely open they are to that interpretation, flaunting it, even! It makes me feel warm and happy. I don't think that sort of thing would have happened twenty or even ten years ago. But that these two major and highly acknowledged actors can sit and taunt the tight-arse conservatives in public like this is just wonderful. It doesn't really matter if it's make-believe or not -- because the point is that they are not in the least concerned that it might harm their images or careers or the success of the film. They are happily putting it out there as a very obvious inferrence, even that it's integral to the film and our enjoyment of it. And their own rl relationship. I hope they *will* make romcoms together! ♥ ♥ ♥

Also, I enjoyed this part of the original article you linked to above:

We can imagine all the sex we want to into the fictional work "Sherlock Holmes" but in the sweaty end all we'll have is our

[kattahj]

...And I don't think those links even include the one where the reporter asks which one is the girl. I'll have to try and find that interview again. (Law cracks up, Downey claims he doesn't want to label them that way.)

Btw, in Law's Letterman appearance, it turned out he had a tiny guest part in the Sherlock Holmes TV series as a teen. I can't remember if that's in part 1 or part 2 of the interview, though.

And yeah, the original article was lovely; my squee was just ruined by the comments.

[wee_warrior]

Acting as if there were NO gay people back in anno dazumal.

I'm sure Oscar Wilde is shocked by these thoughts.

Judging from anecdotal evidence mostly derived from TV shows I do believe producers did - and in some cases, still do - try to make male relationships less close, because they are afraid of slash interpretations (or, I'd theorize, because they are afraid of their advertisers' reactions to these interpretations), but I think that is a clear sign of internalized homophobia. In other words, if the media - and a larger quantity of the (male) viewership - were more accepting of storylines featuring gay people, and especially gay men, it would be far easier to show close male platonic friendships without having to "prove" that it is not something sexual.

[therru]

Incidentally, Arthur Conan Doyle was pals with Wilde. :)

[kattahj]

Shush! How dare you! ACD would roll in his grave at the mere thought of Teh Gay! It is ever so much worse than the mice and ducks and robots!

I'm ridiculously amused by saying "Arthur Conan Doyle would roll in his grave."

[therru]

From what I've read, he was pretty liberal-minded for his time and defended Wilde on more than one occasion. Also, he wasn't even very proprietary about Holmes, and didnt care much what others did with him after he himself was done writing him. So I think he is probably not losing any peace of death about anything, except possibly conservative homophobic wankers. :)