Can someone explain to me how Mormons believe people came from the Middle East and settled in the Americas 2500 BC? I mean...like give me some evidence of this
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the Book of Mormon details the history of a family who was warned of the destruction of Jerusalem around the year 600 BC. they were commanded by prophecy to leave civilization and to migrate to the sea, where Nephi, the youngest son in the family, was instructed by inspiration and divine communications to build a ship unlike any that the people of the same era had created. in this ship the family sailed across the sea and landed in the northern part of south america. the family eventually grew into two great nations, Nephites and Lamanites, who were almost constantly warring with each other until the time of the extermination of the more righteous nation in the year 421 AD. there is also contained in the Book of Mormon an abridgement of a record left by another great civilization called the Jaredites, who migrated in a similar way as Nephi's family, but at the time of the Biblical Tower of Babel and confounding of the languages thousands of years earlier. they populated what we call North America. this people was entirely extinct
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First off, I'd like to stress how I'm always willing to clear up any confusion or just answer questions. Seriously.
Secondly, evidence is so circumstantial. Yeah, I've seen a lot of documentaries and gone to lectures that strive to prove all of it. And there's some solid stuff there. But at the end of the day, you have to figure it out for yourself. And that takes faith.
By your entry, I'm guessing you haven't looked too much into this (and if you have, you're not using very accuracte sources). Am I wrong?
I just spent some time talking to a Mormon friend of mine and she gave me the book of mormon but I haven't read that much of it.
I mostly read articles online for a ocuple hours yesterday so it could be made up but they quoted the book of Abraham abou the Kolob thing and also the premises for your religion (middle easterners taking a boat to south america a long time ago) is widely known I think.
I'm just trying to understand how you can believe that (middle easterneres) when historically I don't ever remember being taught anything abou this. Wouldn't there be historical temples etc of all these events?
I understand where science ends and faith begins but not having faith in something history has no record of...but it could be true and history (archeology?) hasn't found anything yet.
I am interested in knowing if that "comforting feeling/holy ghost" is real or if it's just me wanting to believe what I want to beleive already.
I guess this is one of the MAIN reasons I'm not religious anymore...I don't know how anybody actually knows anything....they just believe and maybe that's not a bad thing just because it's illogical.
I do a lot of things that are illogical :) Like loving people who suck!
it's all a lie but i won't ever fight someone on it.. why destroy their only beliefs? i guess i just live knowing god doesn't exist and deal with it.. why muck it all up with religion
I think I believe in God....just man/religions attempt to nail down exactly what traits etc that god has seems so absurd to me.
At the same time I think it's really absurd to go, "we just exist...cause we do" as really the end all be all of human existence...
so yeah....I have a weird/complex view on religion/god shit.
but...religion usually is a lot of bullshit and ten percent truth :)
How do you deal with knowing God dosen't exist? Just not think about it? I tried that for a while a kidna got depressed...like nothing really meant anything and maybe that's the truth? idk.
i'm an evolutionist, i guess a darwinist, but i have never read his works so i am hesitant to say that. i guess i'm just really a science based person. i kind of tried to believe in god, but i just simply couldn't believe it.. and i found evolution to be a much more logical and understandable process. and evolution makes me feel a lot better, knowing i wasn't divinely created and if there are things wrong with me it isn't my fault.
I guess I think evolution is such an incredible and amazing process that essential begins where god/first mover starts....spark of genetically coded genes...which I find "randomly genetically coded" to be a paradox of sorts...random..but coded? To me it points to a higher power that I would like to hear Dawkins address in his next book..which will probably be just as crappy as The God Dilusion...full of extremists..and me agreeing with him until he stops being a biologist and becomes a crappy philosopher.
sorry for my rant it's late....and I should be working on finals.
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First off, I'd like to stress how I'm always willing to clear up any confusion or just answer questions. Seriously.
Secondly, evidence is so circumstantial. Yeah, I've seen a lot of documentaries and gone to lectures that strive to prove all of it. And there's some solid stuff there.
But at the end of the day, you have to figure it out for yourself. And that takes faith.
By your entry, I'm guessing you haven't looked too much into this (and if you have, you're not using very accuracte sources). Am I wrong?
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I mostly read articles online for a ocuple hours yesterday so it could be made up but they quoted the book of Abraham abou the Kolob thing and also the premises for your religion (middle easterners taking a boat to south america a long time ago) is widely known I think.
I'm just trying to understand how you can believe that (middle easterneres) when historically I don't ever remember being taught anything abou this. Wouldn't there be historical temples etc of all these events?
I understand where science ends and faith begins but not having faith in something history has no record of...but it could be true and history (archeology?) hasn't found anything yet.
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I guess this is one of the MAIN reasons I'm not religious anymore...I don't know how anybody actually knows anything....they just believe and maybe that's not a bad thing just because it's illogical.
I do a lot of things that are illogical :) Like loving people who suck!
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At the same time I think it's really absurd to go, "we just exist...cause we do" as really the end all be all of human existence...
so yeah....I have a weird/complex view on religion/god shit.
but...religion usually is a lot of bullshit and ten percent truth :)
How do you deal with knowing God dosen't exist? Just not think about it? I tried that for a while a kidna got depressed...like nothing really meant anything and maybe that's the truth? idk.
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and evolution makes me feel a lot better, knowing i wasn't divinely created and if there are things wrong with me it isn't my fault.
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sorry for my rant it's late....and I should be working on finals.
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I think it's actually cool of you. And you're not showing too much bias.
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Also, who are you? :)
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Brilliantly said =)
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