hadn't seen this --

[kanzeon_2040]

I'd seen after 10/7 that few Israelis support a two-state solution, but few Palestinians do either. The world cannot impose a two-state solution that the people living there do not want -- we've been trying that for 80 years. The people living there, each side, wants their own state to win. So they keep fighting

Comments

Part I

[matrixmann]

I think your pattern to reduce it to nationalism comes a bit short. (But well, that might be the point of view people from the US have because they've seen no full-scale war taking place on their own territoriry for one and a half century

Part II

[matrixmann]

In the matter with Israel, it's getting even more complicated - here you have to understand first that two opposing fractions fight against each other which link nationalist thoughts and mindsets with the "membership" in a particular religion.
Zionism - mixing the Jeweish religion up with nationalist body of thought (Zionism already exists since the late 19th (!) century) - and Sunni Islam - mixing up nationalist body of thought based on historic examples like the Ottoman empire with Sunni religious extremism in the kind that the Muslim Brotherhood from Egypt, Al Quaida and the Islamic State had adopted (respectively: partly even helped creating). For the origin of this body of thought, please head down the trail of a man once named "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid QutbThe combination of Islam and nationalist body of thought was created later than Zionism; it's a product of the time past WWII.. (But surely it also has to be seen as a product/reaction towards Israels early existence and its politics towards its neighboring

RE: Part II

[kanzeon_2040]

Yes, I agree there's a combo of religious nationalism and ethnic nationalism and even religious ethnic nationalism. They all run together to create opposing identities that sort people into groups who fight each other for supremacy.