Wednesday Chat: Trolls, flames, trolls who flame...

[a_lifestyle]

It is the month of birthdays it seems for these hot mod ladies!!  By the next Wednesday chat, I will also be older!  *throws confetti*  Ah, I am slowly creeping into COUGAR AGE.  However, I have been informed by my other gay ladyfriends that we are called...."lezgers."  I don't even know, guys.  I don't even know.  Anyway.

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[juniper_11]

I missed that amazing post about constructive criticism. I wonder where I was...

I actually have a hard time with constructive criticism when it's from someone that I've never encountered before. For some reason my mind immediately interprets it as a flame. Especially after they've read x amount of chapters and only review in y chapter because they found something they took issue with.

It's easier for me to accept when it's someone who I know has been following my story for a while. Although if they've been following my work for a while I have no problem with hearing, "Now Juni, you know the emotions in this were overdone" or "Juni, your plot was predictable." "too much dialogue not enough description." Or whatever they feel is wrong with the story.

If they haven't and they're this new random person then I can accept it if they point out the good along with the bad. Then I'll try to work on whatever it was they felt that I should work on. I'm able to look hard at my work and see if I can see what they're talking about

[juniper_11]

I have no idea what happened to the rest of the words in that sentence.

[cutecrazyice]

Another was the infamous anon. reviewer. Where the person proceeded to be nasty about the fact that I only wrote Sakura pairings and Sakura is such a slut and such.

If the person didn't like Sakura because she was such a slut, then why bother reading? *scratches head* That is so confusing.

[juniper_11]

Exactly!

[moldycookies]

If you want constructive criticism, ask Rot-chan to do it for you. She REALLY helped me with writing strings and how to formulate and characterize my characters. She's also a very encouraging and honest person, and a valuable friend to me.

But, eh, I leave the reviews so other reviewers can pee their pants over why that person left the review in the first place.

But if it's particularly annoying, I'll delete. Most of the time, I just find it to be funny. And I LOVE replying.

[a_lifestyle]

It is EXCELLENT to have a friend like that!! I'm fortunate for all the people I've met in this community that I can bounce ideas off of or talk about characterization and plot with. It's so fantastic to be able to "talk shop" with other writers when I'm in a tough spot.

Most of the time, I just find it to be funny. And I LOVE replying.

...I don't think I ever thought otherwise about you. :)

[moldycookies]

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

I love you dearly, and it's pleasure when you reach out. 8)

Hehehehe. Come on, I get a kick out of it.

[saphri]

There is a very VERY fine line between constructive crit and down right flaming in my opinion

[denilmo]

aw saph that's horrible. You were just trying to be helpful.

Not everyone knows how to handle some criticism so I totes agree, it is less troublesome just keeping it to yourself.

♥

[cutecrazyice]

Whoa. The mother coming to your house to demand an apology...that was too much. :( But yeah, it happens. That's also the reason why I only give criticism to people who ask.

[seoinage]

Aww, Saphri. :(

I agree with you there - sometimes it can definitely be more trouble than i'ts worth as I had a similar experience online years ago. This reminds me of when they erected the Good Samaritan Laws to protect those who are honestly trying to help from being punished for their actions. *hugs*

[denilmo]

Juniper had said "I actually have a hard time with constructive criticism when it's from someone that I've never encountered before. For some reason my mind immediately interprets it as a flame. Especially after they've read x amount of chapters and only review in y chapter because they found something they took issue with

[cutecrazyice]

Flamers are stupid and I feel they generally act that way to make themselves momentarily feel better, like the "big dog" and then they go about their way.

Yup, this.

[seoinage]

I've never been flamed before...Or if I had, I don't remember it. *lol*

As for concrit, I always ask for it because I appreciate the honesty given from another perspective. What I write may not always translate into something readable for another person. Even if I don't -agree- with the concrit, I always look at it first rather than do any knee jerk reaction like deleting it. Personally, I've never deleted any reviews before and might not even delete a flame because I'd probably get a laugh out of it even if I never respond to it.

To continue about concrit I may not agree with, I would still sincerely thank the person for taking the time out to give me their feedback. My pet peeve in my own writing is seeing grammatical errors, etc, and I know I make them, especially since I'm bad and do not always get things properly beta'd. Even then, a beta is also human and can have their own quirks or slips. Hey, it's okay. In the end, we do this all for lulz and laughs

[a_lifestyle]

In the end, we do this all for lulz and laughs. ^^

I think this is something important that people forget. Although I do know that some of my fanfic writer friends aspire to be writers irl I know far more that enjoy writing as a hobby and a way to connect with others in a community that's fun and relatively stress-free. That's my reasoning anyway.

Personally, I would rather receive a review with some crit than you know. ":)" Or "Nice!" Although I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THESE KINDS OF REVIEWS, it's definitely not helping me any, lol. I think in the same respect that we cannot ask for or expect every review to be gushing with love and adoration, we also cannot ask for or expect every review to be cohesive and thoughtful. It's the internet, after all.