chicago is like six times bigger than portland. more latenesses are to be expected. i caught a bus almost every day for a year and it was pretty much always always there, give or take a minute. i think that's pretty good.
on the flipside, i had to take the el almost every day for a year, and sometimes it was there, sometimes not. sometimes i waited at howard for 2 seconds, sometimes i watched the purple leave right a i arrived, and sometimes i waited for fifteen minutes.
when you have a light rail train it should not be faster to drive.
i took that bus to a train and it was never a big deal. here's the way i look at it--when you're dealing with public transportation you have to do two things: make your own internal time schedule for things like buses and subways and els and expect that you might be a little late if you don't leave early enough. after a couple of times riding the same piece of transporatation, you can usually get a feel for how it runs during a certain time of the day. i think that i looked at the time schedules for the el maybe three times in my entire life and the same with the bus schedule. things generally run on time in chicago. generally and of course, there are sometimes big gaps but i'm sure that'll happen anywhere, especially when they're doing work on the tracks, which, in chicago, they've been doing for sometime now
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Ya, I really don't understand the new transit mall and MAX route. It's painfully redundant. I don't think it's for transit purposes at all. I think it's there to affect the look-and-feel of downtown. I'm not sure if that's bad or not. But it is kinda weird.
I'm stoked that the green line will go from Gateway to Clackamas TC. That'll make MAX soooo much more useful to east county folks who pay for MAX dev but get nothing out of it unless they commute downtown from Gresham. It'll also vitalize both shopping cennters. Etc. But why does it have to mirror the streetcar? Nonsense, I tells you! ;)
this is interesting considering that one bus i take all the time (the 71) hits clackamas, and another (the 33) goes to gateway.
i support new trains wholeheartedly, i just dont know why they want to fuck up downtown in order to eventually make the system worse(particularly when, at the same time, they are systematically fixing bridges, and so traffic--including buses--has already been screwed up a bit as it is).
and i think that doing it for AESTHETIC reasons is even more annoying (though yeah, the downtown here has a weird sort of mixed up feeling. i can't quite put my finger on it). the bus mall is a good thing. it's even a good song! why add trains to the mix?
but yeah, clackamas. is it a town? neighborhood? i dont know it. i just hear it all the time.
Better late then nevah.nonprofitboyMarch 20 2006, 23:28:30 UTC
It seems to me there are many reasons for tearing the mall up. The mall is old and outdated, not as safe as it could be and looks like it was built in the 70's. Shops and companies on the mall have always wanted it redone to allow for more foot and car traffic, which i've always thought to be a load of shit. It'll be better in the long run, but it'll be a pain getting there. I've heard some nasty stories of what happened when the extended the mall though old town/china town
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Re: Better late then nevah.jwithingtonMarch 21 2006, 00:08:15 UTC
huh, i dont feel like it looks outdated at all, and the whole point is to keep the cars OUT, remember? :-)
what kinda nasty shit? like turf wars and martial law? or like, traffic backed up? :-P
as for expansion later on...that makes more sense than anything else. but that's not what anyone is arguing. the argument is all WE NEED LIGHT RAIL TO PSU and that's ridiculous, if you ask me.
Re: Better late then nevah.nonprofitboyMarch 21 2006, 20:31:03 UTC
Long Ass Shit.
Yeah, i know that they're saying that PSU needs light rail. Like you, i just have trouble buying it.
Most of the pot and drug dealing used to be on the mall between Burnside an Pioneer Square. When they started on the OTCT portion, they put up board fences, for some dumbass reason, and created all these little cramped alleys. People got raped, and the drug trade moved north. Not only because of the mall construction project, of course, but it was a factor.
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on the flipside, i had to take the el almost every day for a year, and sometimes it was there, sometimes not. sometimes i waited at howard for 2 seconds, sometimes i watched the purple leave right a i arrived, and sometimes i waited for fifteen minutes.
when you have a light rail train it should not be faster to drive.
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I'm stoked that the green line will go from Gateway to Clackamas TC. That'll make MAX soooo much more useful to east county folks who pay for MAX dev but get nothing out of it unless they commute downtown from Gresham. It'll also vitalize both shopping cennters. Etc. But why does it have to mirror the streetcar? Nonsense, I tells you! ;)
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i support new trains wholeheartedly, i just dont know why they want to fuck up downtown in order to eventually make the system worse(particularly when, at the same time, they are systematically fixing bridges, and so traffic--including buses--has already been screwed up a bit as it is).
and i think that doing it for AESTHETIC reasons is even more annoying (though yeah, the downtown here has a weird sort of mixed up feeling. i can't quite put my finger on it). the bus mall is a good thing. it's even a good song! why add trains to the mix?
but yeah, clackamas. is it a town? neighborhood? i dont know it. i just hear it all the time.
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Clackamas Town Center is a big 'ol mall. It's where you go the day after Thanksgiving.
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yep, took the 71 all the way there. meeting a friend from college who was playing poker at his friends house up on mt. scott.
mystery: solved!
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I KID.
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what kinda nasty shit? like turf wars and martial law? or like, traffic backed up? :-P
as for expansion later on...that makes more sense than anything else. but that's not what anyone is arguing. the argument is all WE NEED LIGHT RAIL TO PSU and that's ridiculous, if you ask me.
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Yeah, i know that they're saying that PSU needs light rail. Like you, i just have trouble buying it.
Most of the pot and drug dealing used to be on the mall between Burnside an Pioneer Square. When they started on the OTCT portion, they put up board fences, for some dumbass reason, and created all these little cramped alleys. People got raped, and the drug trade moved north. Not only because of the mall construction project, of course, but it was a factor.
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it's hard to picture the transit mall as dangerous!
guess things really have changed, quite recently, eh?
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trimet haters, please spend a day riding edmonton transit!
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