Egyptian Regime Crucifying Dissidents - An Old Evil Rises Anew

[jordan179]

The Story

In a development that managed to shock even me, the Egyptian regime is now allowing its Muslim Brotherhood party militias to kill dissidents by crucifixion.

The Inquisitr said

According to reports on Friday, Muslim Brotherhood supporters scourged and crucified secular protestors in Egypt's capital city of Cairo. ... Brotherhood backed mobs

Comments

[sekhmetsat]

I TOLD YOU SO. The Muslim Brotherhood is EEEVVVIIILLLLLL. And Mercy, Al-Jazeera isn't covering it because they are based in Egypt and don't want to be murdered.

[fpb]

Same reason why Fox have taken the article reporting this offline.

[jordan179]

Fox is based in Egypt and fears murder?

[fpb]

Fox have personnel in Egypt and fear murder.

South Sudan

[fpb]

I agree with most of what you say, but I doubt that Sudan would make a good entranceway into Black Africa. The thing is, south of Sudan there now is South Sudan: the country from which the Sudanese Arabs have been driven beyond recall. The Sudanese war has not been properly studied and chronicled, but one thing is certain: Sudan would never have signed so much as an armistice, let alone an agreement to leave South Sudan, if it had not been utterly, totally defeated on the field - defeated beyond any hope of further efforts. Even with Egyptian support, I wonder whether the Sudanese would be even willing to poke their noses again into their own version of Stalingrad.

Re: South Sudan

[jordan179]

Egypt is one of the most populous countries and has one of the most effective armies in the Arab world; by contrast the Sudanese, both Northern and Southern, are militarily weak and incompetent. Furthermore, North Sudan was hamstrung fighting in South Sudan by her awareness of Egyptian enmity. If Egypt and North Sudan were allies, and Egypt willing to commit significant forces into the field, about the only thing which would prevent the Egyptians from smashing the South Sudanese would be fear of Western intervention.

The big questions in my mind are:

(1) Will the new Egypt pursue a southern career of conquest, or commit suicide against Israel? and

(2) If Egypt moves south instead of east, will Egypt do so as ally or enemy of Northern Sudan?

Re: South Sudan

[fpb]

You overrate the military capacities of Muslim Arabs. In the twentieth century, few Muslims have won wars or even battles, and those who did were usually Turks (1915, Gallipoli; 1916, Kut-el-Amarah; 1921-23, Greco-Turkish war). They regularly mistake psyching themselves up to kill enemies with preparing for war, and thus are regularly trashed by enemies who understand that war is a skill like another and must be studied and applied.

Re: South Sudan

[jordan179]

I mostly agree with you, but the Sudanese and the non-Muslim Black Africans are even less competent than are the Arab Muslims. What's more, the Egyptian Armed Forces are well-equipped and have been repeatedly blooded against the Israelis (and to a limited extent against the Libyans and Sudanese) within living memory.

[mythusmage]

When the Islamic World begins to depopulated, then is when the outside world will become concerned.

Gonna hafta call shenanigans until I see pics.

[jorrocks_j]

I'm sure the MSM would ignore this. But the Twitterverse wouldn't. It couldn't. And once the twitpics started showing up, even HuffPo would have to cover the story.

And if there's one thing Web 2.0 has taught us, there's no crime so heinous but that someone will take a picture of it with their cellphone and hit "SHARE."

--Skarl he Drummer

Re: Gonna hafta call shenanigans until I see pics.

[fpb]

You are an optimist. I have twenty dollars that say that HuffPo will either ignore the story or cast it in some way as to make it Whitey's fault.

[vakkotaur]

"...dropping the Aswan Dam [...] which could be achieved without the need of employing nuclear weapons."

Alright, I'm not a civil engineer, but considering the sheer mass of the thing it would seem a rather difficult thing to do much to the Aswan dam. Care to expound?

[jordan179]

The basic technique was devised by Sir Barnes Neville Wallis

[kalance]

Of course, these days we also have bunker-busting cruise missiles that are specifically designed to penetrate through many meters of steel-reinforced concrete before detonating; thus maximizing their damage. A couple of those would do the job without even the need to risk the bomber crew.

I'm sure that Israel must have more than a few such devices, given the nature of the enemy they've been fighting for decades.

[ford_prefect42]

Nit to pick. "Bunker buster" bombs are not "cruise missiles", they are primarily kinetic kill weapons, which means they have to be dropped from very high altitude to work.

So Israel *would* have to risk a bomber to pull that off.

There *have* been some missile based designs, but being short of fuel, they are generally delivered by lower altitude aircraft.