Ramadan Riots in Brussels

[jordan179]

You can find the whole story at http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/09/ramadan-riots-in-brussels.html, assembled by Baron Bodissey from a number of Belgian sources, but the gist of it is that, in what is becoming an annual tradition, mobs of

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[jordan179]

The European Union is a treaty organisation, not a country, federal or otherwise. In its current incarnation it has absolutely no business whatsoever putting its nose in Belgian police operations of this sort.

Then its ambitions to regulate European commerce and even more so to present a unified diplomatic front are doomed. A Great Power which cannot prevent Muslim mobs from paralyzing its capital on a regular annual basis is no Great Power at all, and should stop pretending such.

The European Union is a treaty organisation, not a country, federal or otherwise.

[anonymous]

Then it's a treaty organization with severe delusions of grandeur.

(Poot! Sniff! (close eyes) Aaaaaaaaahhhhhh...)

Re: The European Union is a treaty organisation, not a country, federal or otherwise.

[jordan179]

Then it's a treaty organization with severe delusions of grandeur.

Indeed. In trying to regulate the diplomatic, economic and law enforcement behavior of its member states, it is trying to do something which in fact requires a military, border patrol, police force and considerable loyalty from its constituent parts. Yet it actually has none of these things; hence it is bound to fail.

On the bright side ...

[btripp]

I suspect that every time something like this happens the BNP moves closer to scoring a few more seats. The only thing that will fix Europe is a Pan-European right-wing revival ... hell, the only thing that will save the US is a crushing right-wing backlash against All Things Obama!

Re: On the bright side ...

[jordan179]

I suspect that every time something like this happens the BNP moves closer to scoring a few more seats.

Yes. In this case, more importantly Vlaams Belang, the Belgian equivalent party. Note that VB was the only party to urge that the Army be called in on the rioters. A lot of ordinary, decent Belgians who are right now trembling in fear of and rage against the rioters probably approved of that, and this will be remembered come the next election.

The only thing that will fix Europe is a Pan-European right-wing revival ...

Indeed. I'm an optimist on this and think it can be accomplished without an "extra-constitutional excursion" (coup, civil war or revolution), because the voting patterns have already been shifting that way for several years. I do think that there will be violence when the European countries begin enforcing their own laws on the Muslim immigrants, but it will at least be a violence of The Law versus Criminal Scum, rather than of Eurofascism versus Islamofascism. The latter sort of violence could blight the

Re: On the bright side ...

[sanscouronne]

Plus, I think the VB will be able to accomplish this more easily than the BNP, considering that the former has had more recent historical domestic (and international) success and legitimacy as a party. The BNP, for all of its recent strides, is still popularly marginalized. The VB is far more successful.

Re: On the bright side ...

[mrbogey]

Well the BNP tends to be too far fascist. While they are the solution to some problems. They are as poisonous as the current parties in other regards.

[jordan179]

Dude Constantinople used to be full of the equivalent of rampaging soccer hooligans on a regular basis. They didn't do anything about it because it didn't effect the people who mattered.

Actually, the street wars of the Blues and the Greens did sometimes threaten the Empire, and at those moments quite a lot was done about it. Consider the Nika Riots of 532 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riots).

And I seriously doubt that these Brussels riots are failing to "affect the people who matter." Since they are fiercest in the "historic heart of the city," they are probably making it difficult and dangerous for the EU-crats to get to their offices. And if you follow the story to which I linked, you'll notice that in at least one case the mob invaded a gated residential compound.

This isn't an indication that the EU is powerless against violent rioters; it's an indication that the powerful people in the EU don't care what happens to ordinary people. Those are

[sanscouronne]

Hey, are you calling me a Eurocrat??

[jordan179]

Wow, even with my degree of contempt for Muslim Egypt, it didn't occur to me that the Egyptians would be too retarded to handle their own garbage in the absence of the zabaleen-owned pigs.

More evidence that the Muslim Arab regimes are not fit to run their own countries. Is any more really needed?

[jordan179]

The only reason anyone was ever interested in governing was to have soldiers and workers. Soldiers and workers are barely needed anymore.

How is a country lacking both soldiers and workers to fight, or to make?

[expanding_x_man]

This highlights that the European Union is not, for all its pretensions, a Superpower, a Great Power, or even a Power in any sense of the world.

This is what so many in my RL and on my FL here want us to become. I mean, they want us to be like Europe.

As a parallel fantasy they also imagine that our no longer being a great power would make their lives better somehow. Not so.

[expanding_x_man]

This is what so many in my RL and on my FL here want us to become. I mean, they want us to be like Europe.

Because "If this were Europe, my name would be 'Milord' and the little people would have to stand there and bow with hats in hand as I ride by booted and spurred."