I have steadfastly and happily stuck with Mozilla. It's "more complex" than firefox out of the box with "less plugin support". Same rendering engine. Which means it does everything I want it to do built-in and I don't have to muck around with plugins.
I couldn't live without tabbed browsing.
I am also a big big fan of being able to selectively control who gets to set cookies and who doesn't, to block popup windows, and to be able to turn off GIF animation.
I generally keep with Firefox, as it has less of the creeping bloat problem that Mozilla does. I am totally with you on tabbed browsing, however and selective cookie and popup blocking.
That said, to address jasunshine's original post, I've never really played around with the plugins, with the sole exception of BugMeNot, and I've never really had any problems with the upgrade process. I've generally found that Firefox, while slower to start than IE, renders faster (particularly under 1.5) and is more standards-compliant. Not to mention less of a security nightmare.
Tabbed browsing is the only way I know how to go. I usually have between 10 and fifteen programs open (at work) at any given time. If I was opening a new window for every time I needed to open a new web page, I'd go out of my mind.
I'm not much of a plug-in guy. From what little I can tell (your experiences, and a few others) keeping them working through upgrades is a nightmare.
I honestly don't see what the fascination is with Firefox. It's not that I hate it, it's that I don't see what it does that's so important that I should have to download and learn how to use a whole other program. I already have spyware blaster. I have google toolbar. What the hell else do I need? And why bother with tabs when a bunch of open windows are just as good?
I need the tabbed browsing because I usually have at least 5-15 browser windows open. Some are for near-future reference, some are actively used. I'd hate to try to alt-tab through all of those along with my other open applications. Tabbed browsing allows me to keep all of the browser windows together. Same reason I don't have Excel or Word open up separate task-bar windows. (Sadly, I can't get ctrl-tab to work in Word).
I haven't tried Firefox, but I have tried Thunderbird, and I really don't like it. It's a pain to find and maintain the plug-ins to do what you want. So I use Opera. Which has it's own problems, but less irritating.
I've used FF since 1.0 release, and I really like it. There are too many security problems with IE, and it takes MS way too long to release patches (there are still critical security holes that have not been fixed, IIRC). Also, 1.5 does seem to be faster, IMHO... it keeps a couple pages in memory so that the back button works like lightning when browsing on most sites
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I couldn't live without tabbed browsing.
I am also a big big fan of being able to selectively control who gets to set cookies and who doesn't, to block popup windows, and to be able to turn off GIF animation.
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That said, to address jasunshine's original post, I've never really played around with the plugins, with the sole exception of BugMeNot, and I've never really had any problems with the upgrade process. I've generally found that Firefox, while slower to start than IE, renders faster (particularly under 1.5) and is more standards-compliant. Not to mention less of a security nightmare.
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kniedzw, you should send me your current email / snail mail address. :)
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I'm not much of a plug-in guy. From what little I can tell (your experiences, and a few others) keeping them working through upgrades is a nightmare.
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I need the tabbed browsing because I usually have at least 5-15 browser windows open. Some are for near-future reference, some are actively used. I'd hate to try to alt-tab through all of those along with my other open applications. Tabbed browsing allows me to keep all of the browser windows together. Same reason I don't have Excel or Word open up separate task-bar windows. (Sadly, I can't get ctrl-tab to work in Word).
I haven't tried Firefox, but I have tried Thunderbird, and I really don't like it. It's a pain to find and maintain the plug-ins to do what you want. So I use Opera. Which has it's own problems, but less irritating.
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