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jade_elephant

Ok!

Aug 23, 2005 11:39

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Morally Bankrupt spiriteddryad August 23 2005, 15:49:44 UTC

Does it really matter?

On the one hand being manipulative hurts people, and therefore must be a "sin."

On the other hand, if you're not happy, you're hurting yourself, which constitutes hurting people, which is a "sin."

Either way you're flogged.

-S.D.

Re: Morally Bankrupt jade_elephant August 23 2005, 16:03:52 UTC

Since when did "sins" come into the picture? The questoin is if you have to choose between trying to protect someone else at your expense, or protect yourself and risk hurting them, who gets put on the line?

Re: Morally Bankrupt spiriteddryad August 23 2005, 16:05:23 UTC

I'd never put someone else on the line. But that might just be me and my f-ed up sense of honor or whatever.

-S.D.

Re: Morally Bankrupt jade_elephant August 23 2005, 16:10:23 UTC

but can you handle the pain that it would entail, and be able to hide it from people close to you?

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nicolaaspvc August 23 2005, 17:27:05 UTC

i believe the answer is Monkeys
so long as your true to monkeys your fine
umm yea don't mind me

being human is not easy
i say helmets for all
be happy as you others will agree
or they wouldn't but who needs their option
just be yourself and you be fine
well hope I made more sense then i think i made

jade_elephant August 23 2005, 17:40:59 UTC

No it made sense. Thanks that's really sweet. And you actually hit on something that I had been ignoring. Thanks.

solitarylycan42 August 23 2005, 18:42:09 UTC

I'd have to say both. Because as Human's we do both. We manipulate, whether on a large or small scale to get what we want. And there are times when we just give up and lose things/people/etc and are left with the stabbing pain of that loss.

On one side we grow stronger from overcoming the pain from loss; and on the other we become more likely to survive when we learn the tools of the trade that allow us to live in the world we know. We need to have both and use both of these tools in order to survive in the world. Both make us human. Even as babies we will discover how to manipulate our parents to get a desired effect...in a sense the manipulative tendencies stem from the pain of loss and disappointment. It starts out when we are born and it grows with us as we go through life.

but in any case what I am trying to say is....:

you can flogg me any day!

luciendusoleil August 23 2005, 18:50:44 UTC

there is no such thing as being completely morally bankrupt, even someone with low or amazingly degrading morals...does indeed have morals, just not those that fit to a social norm or average. Hence we're human...dealing with the pain is a fact of life...some can deal more easily than others...others avoid it and or hide it by trying to deal with others pain and adverting attention away from themselves. But piete is right, you just have to be yourself and respect and love yourself for the amazing and truly gifted and unique individual that you are...anything who either can't see that, or doesn't accept you for that is a cock who needs a metal pipe to the back of the knee. Also I resent the whole flogging comment...that was not cool...I'm sorry thats just something I'm mildly into. SO the answer is...regardless of how bankrupt you may try to be and how much you may manipulate...you'll only go so far and we're all human and have morals, thus we all have to deal with some pain, shame, hurt etc... the question then is not whether its ( ... )

johnnytower321 August 23 2005, 19:09:06 UTC

I'd like to say it'd be better to be human and deal with it, but that's just not realistic. I've found out recently that no matter how hard you try, it's pretty likely that sooner or later, you'll give in/sell out/betray your morals to satisfy your needs.