A hearty "hear, hear!" to all of the above. LJ and fandom really know how to made world-class asses out of themselves, don't they? Not too surprising, I guess. One is run by a big company and the other is composed of lots and lots of anonymous people. One of the few things big companies and large groups of anonymous people have in common is that ability to be really, really stupid on a regular basis. The whole thing is worth little more than an eye-roll to me. Maybe an eye-roll and a half. With a resigned sigh, if I'm feeling especially enthusiastic.
One of the few things big companies and large groups of anonymous people have in common is that ability to be really, really stupid on a regular basis.
I thought y'all took pride in being subversive elements, anyway. You don't want the controversy that goes along with that? Fine, leave LJ.
LOL!
I'm staying right here, where I've established myself and made friends. If you all leave, I'm not chasing after you. I love fandom, but that exists wherever two or three fen gather
I don't know that I believe it's as simple as all that. I completely support LJ's right to host or not host whatever content they prefer. Also, completely not down with the porny art. But since this last debacle, I have to admit that LJ's customer service is atrocious. In at least one case the art in question was not of minors, so there was no reason for the artist to know it would be a problem. And LJ couldn't be bothered to say "take down this picture", or give any sort of warning--they removed every journal she owned, along with every comment she'd ever made on anyone else's journal, even though she had a permanent paid account. So, in effect, a great many users were penalized without warning, as a result of a single offending post that the OP didn't even know was offending. This makes me uncomfortable and a little nervous. I have no present plans to leave LJ, but I really do not trust them any more, and I rather wish I hadn't bought a permanent account.
Oh, I'm sure it's not quite as simple as I'm making it out to be. And I don't have a problem with people who are considering the actual issues in a mature fashion. (as you do here, and as a couple of cool heads over on fanthropology have been doing.)
But I do have a problem with the people who are exploding with over-reaction. This post (before I settled myself down a bit) was originally going to say nothing more than GROW THE HELL UP, FANDOM in gigantic font.
I'm not leaving unless I absolutely have to. I spent four years (so far) establishing LJ as my base of online operations; I have friends here; I have archives here; I like the way it's set up; I have a culture here. The thought of all that going away, either because of LJ's stupidity or because of fandom paranoia, makes me really depressed. If I ever leave, I may well leave online fandom altogether, rather than trying to chase after it.
The the-sky-is-falling posts drive me batty; but so is LJ. I like to play by the rules, and right now it just isn't clear to me WHAT the rules are. Until a few days ago, it didn't occur to me that *I* would ever, ever violate terms of service, but now I just don't know. And, as a reasonably well-off middle-aged white woman, I'm used to very little being more than a passing annoyance; if I used what-hurts-me as a litmus test, I'd never have a view on anything
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Sadly and unfortunately true.
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I love fandom, but that exists wherever two or three fen gather,
So, that would be, like, my emergency N3 phone calls in the middle of the work day?
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Yep. :-) Speaking of which, are you wanting to chat this weekend? You're busy tonight, I assume, with Doctor Who and all....
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I thought y'all took pride in being subversive elements, anyway. You don't want the controversy that goes along with that? Fine, leave LJ.
LOL!
I'm staying right here, where I've established myself and made friends. If you all leave, I'm not chasing after you. I love fandom, but that exists wherever two or three fen gather
Amen!
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But I do have a problem with the people who are exploding with over-reaction. This post (before I settled myself down a bit) was originally going to say nothing more than GROW THE HELL UP, FANDOM in gigantic font.
I'm not leaving unless I absolutely have to. I spent four years (so far) establishing LJ as my base of online operations; I have friends here; I have archives here; I like the way it's set up; I have a culture here. The thought of all that going away, either because of LJ's stupidity or because of fandom paranoia, makes me really depressed. If I ever leave, I may well leave online fandom altogether, rather than trying to chase after it.
At least, that's how I'm feeling right now.
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