involved and impassioned spiel about male rape

[ivy_chan]

After reading the Penny and Aggie forum for a period of at least two weeks, I have seen many opinions on sexual abuse of males that have made me froth at the mouth enough to attempt to regurgitate the entire spew of vitriol down in one semi-coherent rant that encompasses all of my feelings on the matter. The simple fact is this: rape = engaging in

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[darcenciel]

This is why I won't read most yaoi fic, or NC-17 rated fic in general. I find that for some reason, fangirls have this unhealthy obsession with rape like it's a good thing, whether for boys or girls. As someone who's friends with several people who have had it happen to them for real (yes, some men among them), I don't find it funny at all.

[ivy_chan]

Yes, rape is a delicate issue that should be written as the subject it is. I dislike the glorification of rape, so I don't read 'bodice-rippers' or rape fantasies. While I understand that there's a separation of the reality of rape and the fantasy of rough, but consentual sex, I still don't like reading a story in which it's shown as romantic.

[t3h_toby_chan]

I find the entire sentiment against males that you've indicated to be really sad, and with all the indicated social constraints and expectations on men, I'm relieved that I don't have to be one. Even if people around you say things like 'it's no big deal' or 'gender doesn't matter', they still get those feelings of pressure to be 'tough' and 'manly

[ivy_chan]

Exactly. No one takes the excuse: 'My emotions and adrenaline made it impossible for me to restrain myself from beating this man to death'. Why is it more acceptable to let the carnal desires override morality and self control? Ultimately, only you are responsible for your actions. Even if a woman or man is completely naked, if they say they does not want sex, that is what they have expressed and you are not to intrude on their rights and abuse their person because of a hormonal surge. People are not meat or animals. We tout ourselves as rational, thinking creatures, and it is time we acted like it, and appreciated each other's rights.

And yes, women's rights should NOT override and diminish men's rights. I'm tired of overzealous feminists vilifying men and making light of their problems. We are not the only ones who suffer from gender stereotypes.

[brownie_utonium]

I totally agree. It's true that there is still a lot of sexism going on against women, but it's not an excuse to turn a blind eye to the sexism against men. The main problems is that people generalize too much about what men and women "should be like," and that's when statements such as "men live for sex" or whatever start being taken as absolute truths. It doesn't help that a lot of them play up to this stereotype, but the same goes for a lot of women as well.