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Aug 20, 2007 08:18

stardust_rain's post of yesterday got me thinking, because both arguments that seem to be dominating discussions-"LJ wants fandom gone" vs. "LJ is in heap-big financial trouble"-both seem to have their flaws. If LJ wants fandom gone, why not just yank on the copyright violation angle, which is much more plausible than ZOMGCHILDPORN!? If LJ is in heap-big ( Read more... )

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mzcalypso August 20 2007, 15:01:22 UTC

"Wants fandom gone" and "in financial trouble" aren't mutually exclusive.

ficangel August 20 2007, 17:10:49 UTC

This is very true. However, I still think that if LJ were in such degree of financial trouble that every paid account counted and they needed the content to attract eyeballs and thus advertisers, they would not go about dealing with fandom in such a ham-handed way after such a method already failed once. Not saying that they're mutually exclusive, but that one or the other would take such precedence as to create a tipping point in both of the hypotheses that I've seen most frequently.

Does qualifying it with 'such degree' help? That's not me being snitty, just trying to clarify what I meant.

I will answer the comment below later, because it requires a certain degree of diplomacy and I can't achieve that and still get to work on time.

(works with 6A, but this isn't official LJ policy) anildash August 20 2007, 15:15:08 UTC

Hi, I work at Six Apart but not on the LJ team, but I thought I might have some perspectives that are useful here. This is my opinion as a team member, not official 6A policy, so please be gentle ( ... )

Re: (works with 6A, but this isn't official LJ policy) anildash August 20 2007, 15:15:49 UTC

oh man, on seeing that... i'll give myself a TL;DR. Hah.

Re: (works with 6A, but this isn't official LJ policy) serenanna August 20 2007, 15:53:20 UTC

Sir, this is just my opinion, but I believe the goal of your company is to make money. That much is obvious in any business. I don't believe your company has a grand scheme for world domination, but I cannot shake the feeling I get that something is serious wrong with the direction the company is taking and it scares me ( ... )

Re: (works with 6A, but this isn't official LJ policy) astraea_trepe August 20 2007, 17:47:30 UTC

Ditto to all of the above. In case Anildash checks back to read comments, I'll just say more explicitly that this "illegal or that was out of line with LJ policy" thing is what many of us are concerned about. First it was illegal material. Then when that didn't actually justify the bannings, it was expanded to this vague "against LJ policy" talking point. Basically, we still don't know what in the world you mean and it's incredibly frustrating.

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astraea_trepe August 20 2007, 17:35:28 UTC

I just have to say "feral fans" had me literally LOL.

ficangel August 22 2007, 01:48:58 UTC

*bows* I try.

stardust_rain August 20 2007, 17:45:42 UTC

Actually, I never intended the arguments to be either/or or 'versus' each other. I was just tossing around a lot of what-if theories and looking for the possibility that they could be true. (Hell, I never intended it to get so monstrously long. One thing just led to another ( ... )

stardust_rain August 20 2007, 18:02:11 UTC

even if it's a short-time loss, it could be a long-time profit.

In which time=term. D'oh.

mzcalypso August 20 2007, 18:18:09 UTC

Fanfic also has the idea of precedent in its favor. Fanfic has been going on since the early 1970's

stardust_rain August 20 2007, 18:33:52 UTC

Fanfic has been going on since the early 1970's

Actually, the idea of fanfic started earlier than that, like mid-nineteenth century, when fans wrote parodies and alternate endings of Lewis Carroll's work. There was also fiction based on Jane Austen's characters that started in the 1920's. Although 70's would be official start and recognition of the fanfic culture with Star Trek fandom. /history whore

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