Ruby character study -- her end game

Sep 20, 2012 07:59

This post is from let me say I love you tumblr .  The tags that developed over the reblogging of this post made me wonder if we were watching the same show. After reading their tags, I had to post my own reply. I don't really care if I anger anyone with  my opinion but I can't believe they saw her character as anything but a manipulative demon.


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lolaann1 September 20 2012, 14:09:25 UTC
Thanks for the lolz. I really needed that. *shakes head* Seriously? I'm all for multi-layered bad guys, but Ruby was about as straightforward evil as it gets.

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metallidean_grl September 20 2012, 14:56:53 UTC
From the very beginning in Season 3 Ruby was playing her cards perfectly. to get Sam to trust her so that when Dean was gone she could manipulate him into doing EXACTLY what she needed him to do. She saved Dean in 'Malleus Maleficarum,' she let them boys think she would have sacrificed herself in 'Jus in Bello.' She was never going to do that, her whole thing in that episode, I think, was more of a test to see where Sam was, and what he was willing to do - and given that Sam seemed willing to sacrifice the girl, he was well on his way to the person Ruby needed him to be. All during S3 she behaved in a way to get Sam to believe that she was on their side. Dean was never completely trusting of her, for good reason, but Sam was the one losing Dean, he was the more vulnerable one, just perfect for the picking. She put the hunger for revenge in Sam and then once Dean was dead and in Hell, Sam was the perfect lonely, broken, soul - ripe to be further manipulated to do her bidding, and make him think it was all his idea ( ... )

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fannishliss September 20 2012, 16:05:32 UTC
well, no. I think Ruby was a sincere demon. I believe that she played them from the beginning, and that she was in league with Lucifer. OBVIOUSLY, YES. But also!

A sincere demon has very little to hope for in existence. The only thing she can hope for is to make the world, our world that is, cozier for demons. She wants to bring about the reign of Lucifer and get out of hell.

I don't, therefore, believe that Ruby is primarily sadistic. (I do see Meg as sadistic -- she enjoys watching people suffer). I think that Ruby is primarily, weirdly enough, optimistic -- she played the long game -- she fooled Alistair -- she fooled EVERYBODY -- and I kind of think that she saw something in Sam that she liked, beyond the fact that he would open Hell's gate. Maybe it was just the way that Sam was designed by the Angels, to be Lucifer's perfect vessel -- maybe that affinity that Sam bears to Lucifer, attracted Ruby. But I never thought she hated him. She manipulated him to get what she wanted.

F*YEAH RUBY! as we used to say. :)

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kitap September 23 2012, 05:40:07 UTC
>>Ruby loathed Dean and saw him only as an obstacle to her goal.<<

Ruby only loathed Dean because he saw through her and wanted her dead. If he'd been oblivious like Sam she wouldn't have cared.

Plus she was, I imagine, told that Dean had to go to Hell to break the first Seal. Apparently only the Winchesters and their allies and Castiel were unaware that Dean both was the First Seal and had to break it. And she was probably told to do her part to pound home to him that the was going to go to Hell so as to help break him down.

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jpgr September 21 2012, 00:20:08 UTC
Oh, that was pure gloating at the end, with some modest bragging thrown in as well

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