my philippines headcannon

Jun 10, 2012 09:18

Pamagat/Title: My little headcannon
Tauhan/Character: OC Philippines
Babala/Warnings: K
Buod/Preview:

Let’s do this! Republic of the Philippines (Republika ng Pilipinas)

aka Dolorosa Salome Buenaventra y Ramirez.

(A little side note:I’m not fond of Maria Clara because she was a symbol of idealized filipino woman. The whole, being dainty, demure, easily ( Read more... )

oc: philippines, discussion

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This should be interesting. wayward_and_me June 11 2012, 03:28:29 UTC
Personally, I agree that the name Maria Clara (and its variations) is a bit over-used, but some authors have their reasons for doing naming her this. For example, some people have the headcanon that she was the inspiration for the character of the same name. I'm pretty sure it wasn't an uncommon name back when it really mattered whether you were pretty or not, otherwise she would have lived a relatively difficult life, which is a whole other can of worms that I don't want to open because there are too many conflicting ideas (all of which make sense).

As for the rest, I'm kind of on the fence, though I do understand where you're coming from. That should make this rather interesting, don't you think?

[I will use my own OC Juliana (who is not necessarily named after the El Fili character) for this discussion, though, for the sake of simplicity. I feel uncomfortable using Rosa, as she is your character. I'll pick up a few points and run before my comment ends up longer than your post.)

Since Manila is one of the most polluted cities ( ... )

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Re: This should be interesting. mochiko52 June 11 2012, 05:05:15 UTC
Is the headcannon kind of bad? I don't mind, I love feed back, it helps me learn more and improve on my stuff. Thanks,... goes back to the drawing board for improvement, and more research. I do agree on your views, and might add those things to make it more spot on, I'm still trying to dig in more into the Japanese and American occupation.Probably make Rosa passive aggressive maybe? I don't mind sharing more theories with you it's really fun.

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Re: This should be interesting. wayward_and_me June 11 2012, 05:48:16 UTC
No headcanon is a bad headcanon. It's something that can change every ten seconds or perhaps every ten months, and a lot of it is built by a good mix of research and exposure, not to mention the mindset of the person who owns said headcanon. A whole other can of worms.

Rosa would probably work with passive aggression, but it might be something that depends on the person she's talking to. I think the Philippines is someone who is naturally pleasant and hospitable until pissed off.

Asdfghhjkl, I'll be back later with further discussion on some of your ideas. See you!

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Re: This should be interesting. mochiko52 June 11 2012, 06:01:35 UTC
thanks very much for the advice! I'm working on a comic for Phili, that is both absurd humor and historical. The seven years war is the subject and i need help formulating a coherent story, are you up for it?

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trishpawachunyu June 11 2012, 08:55:30 UTC
I personally find it interesting that your Piri OC is Dolorosa...grief and suffering, right? Why did you choose that name for her, if I may ask? (Then again, that pretty Mindfang I see in your icon should be a clue to me, but I didn't want to presume ( ... )

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mirdan June 11 2012, 09:35:46 UTC
I stick with "Maria" because it's a pretty common name choice in our fandom. It also goes neatly with many other names, so it's really a win-win situation as far as picking a headcanon name is concerned. If the most common name for an OC Philippines had been "Anna" or "Corazon" or even "Toyang," then I'd've most likely gone with it too! What's in a name, right?

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trishpawachunyu June 11 2012, 11:48:03 UTC
Well, I kind of think I would've stuck with Maria, even if the common OC name was a different one! Actually, I sort of got an idea of making a Philippine personification when I was in grade school - which was yes, before I even knew of Hetalia, who would've known - and for some reason I thought of using Maria, due to some plotline I had thought of back then, which I have since forgotten.

And we all know most Filipinas who have lots of names have got to have a Maria, or a Marie, or a Mary in there somewhere, so I thought it'd be a pretty generic fit. ^^

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thanks for the feedback mochiko52 June 11 2012, 19:54:48 UTC
yeah i get caught in the moment, but it kind of fits, I might just drop it and leave it to Salome, but I'm building up to why she has the name Dolorosa, Maaf web comic kinda affected quite a bit but I'm still doing research.

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You had me at Fleetwood Mac mirdan June 11 2012, 09:00:54 UTC
I’m not fond of Maria Clara because she was a symbol of idealized filipino woman.

This is exactly the main reason why I don't think the name Maria Clara "fits" a female personification of an OC Philippines. The irony is that every personification is, in essence, an idealization of a nation, but somehow for me "Maria Clara" is not the name that immediately comes to mind. It's actually a very logical choice and I'm not trying to put down anyone who thinks otherwise, but IMHO I don't think the name goes far enough to truly encompass the immense complexities of what a Philippines personification is in the same way that "Kiku Honda" symbolically does for Japan. When it comes to name choice, anything goes because it's really one of the most subjective aspects of forming a headcanon ( ... )

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anonymous June 15 2012, 12:51:17 UTC
I like the name Juliana for Philippines. It's feminine but it doesn't present her as dainty. Well, that's just me.

I dunno...Just the fact that the Philippines has slid so many issues under the rug makes me imagine her being somewhat emotionally unstable in that sense that a small issue can usually set her off. All due to the pent up emotions and tensions she's had for so long from past issues. Sad thing is, she's always tries to avoid any sort of conflict. There'll be a time though, when everything she's stored up will overflow. Just a small thing can cause that to happen.

I remember my dad saying how Americans and British people are more frank and that we Filipinos can't be like that 'cause we're afraid of conflict. Aaahhh...just an idea.

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mochiko52 June 18 2012, 02:49:29 UTC
I like that idea, and make her extremely passive-aggressive as well. Research, personal observations, Maaf, and Silnetside's fanfics will probably make this headcannon interesting. I did remember the spaniards making "filipinos" chocolate bar.

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