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[torasama]

I was wanting to send this to the HRC or some such group, and wanted to get some feedback first.

Comments on the ideas expressed as well as punctuation, syntax, word choice, etc. are welcome.

Comments

[mathwhiz78]

Style point: no a without b, i without ii, etc.

[torasama]

Like that?

[mathwhiz78]

Yeah, or just make them one lines instead. (And you missed 8.)

[torasama]

Thanks :)

[torasama]

Thanks! I was never sure if it was one s or two.

Also, do you happen to know the law that makes it so if something legal happens in one State (marriage, adoption, divorce, paying taxes, blah blah blah) then it's valid in every other State? I wanted to cite that but I couldn't remember the name of it and haven't had much luck with google. It was a pretty old one, enacted around when the colonies were first rebelling iirc.

[a_tergo_lupi]

Nice. I didn't look that far. Good show.
I guess that's what I get for only three conlaw classes oh so long ago.

[evil_admiral]

There wouldn't be any need to file singlely or as a couple in the first place if the income tax (and all other federal taxes) was eliminated outright.

[evil_admiral]

The Fair Tax.

[fabfemmeboy]

You do realize that "progressive sales tax" is an oxymoron, right? We can agree to disagree on other aspects of it, and I think revenue-neutral federal governance is something we definitely need, but the poor (particularly the working poor) pay a much higher percentage of their income when taxation is based solely on spending...making it therefore a regressive tax. Unless you want to say that anyone making over X pays 10% sales tax, anyone making between Y and X pays 7%, anyone between Y and Z pays 5%, anyone under Z pays 2%, in which case that's still an income-based tax. Just saying.

[fabfemmeboy]

Can I point out that, with the exception of 9 (and anywhere you list "gender identity/expression", HRC already "supports" all of these things? I guess I just don't see what you want to get out of doing this. Don't get me wrong - it's a really comprehensive list that lays out the gay agenda really well, but...why?

[torasama]

To my knowlege the HRC doesn't have a list of its goals. There's a select-your-issue style drop-down menu on their website, but there's not anything like, just as an example, the lists the Barack Obama has on his website. I'd just thought it'd be nice to have something to point to.

Overseas marriages

[gingerdavid]

I'm curious to know whether clause 1e,

The right to have marriages performed in other countries legally recognized as valid in the entirety of this country.

actually applies to heterosexual marriages?

What I'm asking is: do all fifty states (and/or the federal government) recognise all foreign marriages of straight couples?

I suspect that the answer is no.

Every so often here in Britain, there is a news story about a straight couple who get married in some idyllic tropical location, and then discover that the British government doesn't recognise their overseas marriage as valid under British law. Sometimes, this discovery is made years after the overseas marriage, when the couple needs to assert some legal right provided by marriage, only to find they cannot exercise that right.

I think I can see where you're coming from -- it would validate same-sex marriages performed in more enlightened countries -- but it's a complicated issue, even for straight couples.

Re: Overseas marriages

[torasama]

I've never heard of anything like that happening with a straight couple here.

"Marriage of U.S. Citizens Abroad

Validity of Marriages Abroad

In general, marriages that are legally performed and valid abroad are also legally valid in the United States. Marriages abroad are almost always performed by local (foreign) civil or religious officials. American diplomatic and consular officers are not permitted to perform marriages, and, as a rule, marriages are not performed on the premises of an American embassy or consulate. The validity of marriages abroad is not dependent upon the presence of an American diplomatic or consular officer, but upon adherence to the laws of the country where the marriage is performed." (here)

The exceptions listed are along the lines of, 'in some countries if you marry a native of that country, you automatically revoke your US citizenship and become a citizen of that country.' Then you obviously wouldn't need to worry about it.