Eeee! You're one of THEM, those mysterious rare people! *catches you and puts you in specimen jar labeled "Greater European Maturin Hater"* Please tell me why you hate him! I'm curious to know!
Aww, but thanks for the compliment! I'm Grace, by the way. I've seen you around in other people's journals, and heard about your fame (though not as a Maturin hater.)
Molt bé, txiqueta!
Are you speaking Catalan? "Very good" something, maybe?
Rare? Oh, no... maybe there are many other closet Maturin haters who daren´t come out because his fans would not have anyone less-than-adore him? *g* Primo, he´s fugly, inside and outside. Secondo, he keeps driving dear Jack up the wall and making him rescue from every little thing (bad women, racks, rocks, and falling into the sea) because the Doc can´t buckle his shoes alone. Terzo, his wimpish querulous unmanly whiny self is a disgrace for this fellow Spaniard *harrumphs* Quarto, Maturin´s caused the horrible death of every single character I fell for in the series - first Dillon, then Dil, then Canning, then Clonfert... and I´m only at the start of Desolation Island! Man´s a veritable Typhoid Mary :/
Si, es Català and it means "Very well done, lass!" :)
I´m Vic, a glass of Madeira with you, lady! (fame, what fame? LOLOL! I´m invisible in the Aubreyad fandom, he he.)
Tee hee, you´re certainly a worthy defender of St Mathurin *waves white flag* I call him fugly because he´s so - well - gross, not bathing and covered in dirt and marmalade and dead tissue and the like... when I´m reading the books I can´t help but picture a scowling, bitter, rancorous zombie midget, sorry :p Not a dashing caballero at all! Also, Dillon was dead jealous of the instant close rapport between Jack and Maturin, and just like Maturin´s suicidal in most of the books, Dillon´s so unhappy because of that it´s probably a big part of why he seeks and finds death in battle *sob* Also Maturin deliberately provoked Canning abusing his hospitality and insulting him in every possible way, and however he tried to kid himself afterward when regret and guilt were eating him inside, he *did* want to kill Canning so have Diana back (I´m so glad she didn´t play ball, he he
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Reply part 1!grace_poppyNovember 12 2006, 23:48:10 UTC
Oh, I'd never call Stephen a dashing caballero in my widest dreams, hee! And yes, never bathing and being covered in filth is unpleasant. But he and I rarely meet in person, so I can only write him letters advising him to bathe and trust that he'll take my advice. I can't see or smell him. I'm sure he'll clean up when he comes to visit me though
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Reply part 2!grace_poppyNovember 13 2006, 00:57:17 UTC
Two separate replies, since the first was getting so long! And I hadn't even started on the reasons why I love Stephen! A lot of them are because I identify with him, share some of the same character traits. It may be vanity, but I believe people often like characters that remind them of themselves, or versions of themselves portrayed in benevolent light. I'll list my reasons in no particular order
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Reply part 3!grace_poppyNovember 13 2006, 00:58:42 UTC
Well, and what else? Goodness me, I had to start a third post!
Oh, I'm usually attracted to highly intelligent over-educated men. ;D Especially if they're enthusiastic like he is. Also, I think he's quite amusing with his snarky comments. And I love his sweet affection for Jack, and for Sophie (who also reminds me of myself), and for Bonden, and Sir Joseph, and Pullings... And I adore his friendship with Dil, neither condescending nor aloof - not many men can be such equal companions with a young girl. And equality is so noble in Stephen, and pure. Even just learning the language and adapting to local customs wherever he goes - I love that. Oooh, I love languages too! And music.
I would love to just sit and talk to Stephen for days - talk about birds, music, travel, language, people, medicine, history... Oh! And I could color his drawings for him, since he feels that he lacks the skill.
Hmph, I'm sure Diana could never appreciate all those things the way I do!!! *pouts*
Brava cosi! Quanto mi piace hablar avec quelqu'une chi parla La Lingua di Jack! Esta une plaisir muy grandissima! Ma desolee' que non tengo les accents per la mia computador. "I am most deeply sorry, sir: most heartily ashamed," said the footpad, hanging his head. (Scriven! &hearts )
Aww, but! It's not fair to dislike someone for being unhappy! Sure, you can dislike someone for being negative or cynical or hateful, or for actively causing unhappiness in others, or for moaning and complaining to get sympathy. But Stephen doesn't do that. He's very private about his deepest emotions. We only get to see them because POB shows us his innermost thoughts and his private journal. But being depressed is just part of Stephen's nature, the poor dear! (Like me, sigh.) And you don't dislike Dillon or Diana for being unhappy! As you say, it's Stephen's little twisted demons sneaking in, but everyone has their demons, and they rarely get to choose them
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Ah, ora penso che capisca. Ho cercato la frase. Stephen ti irrita, semplicemente? Capisco. Ci sono caratteri popolari che non mi piacciano. Come Heathcliff di "Wuthering Heights..."
Amo Scriven! Mi piace che Stephen lo alimenta con un cucchiaio. Povero Scriven! E tanto impaurito!
LOL si, Maturin m´irrita *molto* (anche Heathcliff, he he - e Rochester. Perchè gli caratteri più "romantici" ci sono anche sbagliati nel amore, se ne trovano piacere di fare soffrire così i sui amici? o.O He was less penniless than Diana, and it was only when Jack made her his mistress, though he was even poorer than Maturin - no castles in Spain or near-royal connections there! - that Maturin began to sneak up on her and spy on Jack. Also he was dishonest towards his best friend; Jack went after Diana quite openly, and when he finally realised Maturin might have a problem with that, the first thing he did was confront Maturin about her, laid his cards on the table frankly and asked him to do the same... and what did Maturin do? Refuse, deny, shy away like a coward - would have spared the foursome a lot of pain if he´d been as direct and said, "Jack, I know you´ve been fooling around with her and that you don´t love her anymore than she loves you, but I´m crazy for her and want to marry her", then Jack would have broken with Diana
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But Jack wasn't open about pursuing Diana. He would leave the cottage on some pretext, and then Stephen would arrive at Diana's house and see his own horse that Jack had taken to go visit her
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Aww, but thanks for the compliment! I'm Grace, by the way. I've seen you around in other people's journals, and heard about your fame (though not as a Maturin hater.)
Molt bé, txiqueta!
Are you speaking Catalan? "Very good" something, maybe?
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Si, es Català and it means "Very well done, lass!" :)
I´m Vic, a glass of Madeira with you, lady! (fame, what fame? LOLOL! I´m invisible in the Aubreyad fandom, he he.)
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Oh, I'm usually attracted to highly intelligent over-educated men. ;D Especially if they're enthusiastic like he is. Also, I think he's quite amusing with his snarky comments. And I love his sweet affection for Jack, and for Sophie (who also reminds me of myself), and for Bonden, and Sir Joseph, and Pullings... And I adore his friendship with Dil, neither condescending nor aloof - not many men can be such equal companions with a young girl. And equality is so noble in Stephen, and pure. Even just learning the language and adapting to local customs wherever he goes - I love that. Oooh, I love languages too! And music.
I would love to just sit and talk to Stephen for days - talk about birds, music, travel, language, people, medicine, history... Oh! And I could color his drawings for him, since he feels that he lacks the skill.
Hmph, I'm sure Diana could never appreciate all those things the way I do!!! *pouts*
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Amo Scriven! Mi piace che Stephen lo alimenta con un cucchiaio. Povero Scriven! E tanto impaurito!
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