Si, Mowett ritornerà, ma non fera gran cosa ormai :(
I´m sorry about the spoilers! You have such insights about Jack and Maturin, I thought you had at least leafed through the later books and so knew a lot of what was going to happen *whacks self*
Umm yes, Jack wasn´t honest with Sophie *shuffles* But then, Sophie knew well Diana had ensnared Jack, and questioned her about it, so she did know she had a serious rival in her, and if she played ladylike innocent and ignorant she, too, was pretending very hard nothing was amiss, and that it was just Jack´s poverty and lack of prospects which kept him from courting her openly.
There´s so much hypocrisy in Post Captain, in every single character, it´s a fantastic book because each in the foursome is so ambiguous and realistically "fallible", so human you can sympathize with each of them (ok, well, almost) and their reasons for cheating on everybody else. Talk about a ménage à quatre...
But enough of this Stephen talk. Unless you particularly want to carry on? I don't think we will ever agree!
But apart from your being one of the rare species of Greater European Maturin Hater discovered in Madrid, I know very little about you! Do you work? Do you live with family, friends, alone? I'm 28, live alone with two cats, and I work as a paper conservator, una restauratrice dell'arte sulla carta. Hmm, I should just look at your LJ interests!
Do you like Ralph Fiennes movies? I ask because I love his movies, but I've also noticed that many of them are sad love stories. He often plays depressed intelligent men who are unhappy in love. I seem to be attracted to those characters! I want to comfort them! Ralph Fiennes actually played Heathcliff, and that made the character more bearable. ;D But I still dislike Heathcliff. RF just made me feel a little more sympathetic. But RF's characters aren't nearly as kind and content as Stephen
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Ooooh, your best friend in Spain is a conservator too??? Where does she work? That is quite a coincidence! Was she in Florence after the flood in the 60s? So many conservators had the start of their career there, including my boss. I wish I had been alive then. It must have been so exciting
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She lives and works in A Coruña (province of Galicia), and she spent some years in Florence around the mid-nineties, IIRC :) Alas, well after the flood *blushes in shame at ignorance and goes a-googling* why, was it so devastating
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"Rebecca" is a musical??? How bizarre!! But then... do you like "Turn of the Screw," the Henry James novella? There's a Britten opera of it, and I like it quite a lot. (It's not one of his best operas, but I still like it. It does manage to capture some of the terrifying ambiguity of the story. Britten is good at ambiguity.) So if they can make an opera of "Turn of the Screw," I suppose they can make a musical of "Rebecca." And I adore the Daphne du Maurier book too!
Hee, and most of the music I love best has no tune to it, so maybe I'd like this musical of which you speak. I can't remember, have you heard "Billy Budd"? Hmm, probably not, because I think only weeboopiper and esteven have.
Wow, so did your Grandmother like Almasy? Was he handsome and suave and brooding and remarkably intelligent?
I ADORE The Turn Of The Screw, both the James novella and the opera by Britten!! It was filmed by the BBC, I think, can´t remember the singers but it was a very naturalistic approach, and the governess´ dress, which as snow-white at the beginning, developed a kind of growing, creeping black ivy lace border that gradually took over her whole dress and at the end it was black, and she looked indeed like death. Very lovely and scary fairytale!
Of course I know Billy Budd. My stepdad sang Vere once, many years ago. Every time they play it in Vienna I try to go see it, it´s *such* a good production.
According to Gran, he was short, awkward, unpredictable and very sarcastic, but he seemed to have that je ne sais quoi which drew women to him (or rather, made other men believe he was a chick magnet and thus made them jealous!) And he seems to have been intelligent enough to hide his smarts in society...
*adores icons twice as much for that reason alone*
Did you like Melville´s story, and do you like "Peter Grimes" as well?
My, comparing Dah Aviator with Maturin... *g* basket case, he he (although funnily enough I can imagine Fiennes-Almásy playing Maturin - most probably truer to book canon than Bettany did).
I did like Melville's story, and I love Peter Grimes too. And do you know Gloriana, Britten's opera about Queen Elizabeth? It's so perfect for him to have written a Renaissance opera! So suitable.
Well I do adore some of the same things in both men - movie Almasy and Maturin. I love that they're so knowledgeable, and both speak so many languages, and both blend so effortlessly with native cultures and local peoples, and both are passionate about knowledge and learning... Sigh.
Have you seen Fiennes in 'Quiz Show'? I love him in that movie too - again, because he's so knowledgeable and intelligent! He plays Shakespeare quote guessing games with his father!!! &hearts
And when I said Stephen was content (at least, more than Fiennes' characters usually are), I meant that he usually accepts and even expects his sad events, even if he hates them. Onegin, and Almasy, Heathcliff, and certainly Goeth refuse to accept unpleasant circumstances, even the things they can't change. (And they're more recklessly unkind.) That's all I meant. (But I have heard that he gets more content and happy as the series progresses. I'm only on book 5 right now.)
Hmm... it´s one thing accepting, another expecting them, and you´re right there that a part of him always seems to brace itself for the worst almost with masochistic glee... it´s why I call him defeatist, and that´s such an anti-Spanish trait, maybe that´s at the root of my deep dislike for him.
The only times I grokked him better was when he´s fighting and ENJOYING the challenge - like when he´s dragging himself around the deck of the Surprise, learning to walk again. That is your Spanish-Catalan hombre, as I know and like them ;)
I´m halfway through book five now, too! (and have had Mum hide the book somewhere til June, because I have to ace a hard test then and I don´t want to be distracted from studying... tee hee, shouldn´t even read Aubreyad character discussions at all!)
Oh but come now, there can't be a personality type that fits the ENTIRE Spanish nation! I think one of the first Spanish people I knew was a girl online in a depression forum with me. :P
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I´m sorry about the spoilers! You have such insights about Jack and Maturin, I thought you had at least leafed through the later books and so knew a lot of what was going to happen *whacks self*
Umm yes, Jack wasn´t honest with Sophie *shuffles* But then, Sophie knew well Diana had ensnared Jack, and questioned her about it, so she did know she had a serious rival in her, and if she played ladylike innocent and ignorant she, too, was pretending very hard nothing was amiss, and that it was just Jack´s poverty and lack of prospects which kept him from courting her openly.
There´s so much hypocrisy in Post Captain, in every single character, it´s a fantastic book because each in the foursome is so ambiguous and realistically "fallible", so human you can sympathize with each of them (ok, well, almost) and their reasons for cheating on everybody else. Talk about a ménage à quatre...
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But apart from your being one of the rare species of Greater European Maturin Hater discovered in Madrid, I know very little about you! Do you work? Do you live with family, friends, alone? I'm 28, live alone with two cats, and I work as a paper conservator, una restauratrice dell'arte sulla carta. Hmm, I should just look at your LJ interests!
Do you like Ralph Fiennes movies? I ask because I love his movies, but I've also noticed that many of them are sad love stories. He often plays depressed intelligent men who are unhappy in love. I seem to be attracted to those characters! I want to comfort them! Ralph Fiennes actually played Heathcliff, and that made the character more bearable. ;D But I still dislike Heathcliff. RF just made me feel a little more sympathetic. But RF's characters aren't nearly as kind and content as Stephen ( ... )
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Hee, and most of the music I love best has no tune to it, so maybe I'd like this musical of which you speak. I can't remember, have you heard "Billy Budd"? Hmm, probably not, because I think only weeboopiper and esteven have.
Wow, so did your Grandmother like Almasy? Was he handsome and suave and brooding and remarkably intelligent?
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Of course I know Billy Budd. My stepdad sang Vere once, many years ago. Every time they play it in Vienna I try to go see it, it´s *such* a good production.
According to Gran, he was short, awkward, unpredictable and very sarcastic, but he seemed to have that je ne sais quoi which drew women to him (or rather, made other men believe he was a chick magnet and thus made them jealous!) And he seems to have been intelligent enough to hide his smarts in society...
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Wow, Almasy sounds like quite a character. Haha, that description (minus the chick magnet) sounds like Stephen!
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Did you like Melville´s story, and do you like "Peter Grimes" as well?
My, comparing Dah Aviator with Maturin... *g* basket case, he he (although funnily enough I can imagine Fiennes-Almásy playing Maturin - most probably truer to book canon than Bettany did).
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Well I do adore some of the same things in both men - movie Almasy and Maturin. I love that they're so knowledgeable, and both speak so many languages, and both blend so effortlessly with native cultures and local peoples, and both are passionate about knowledge and learning... Sigh.
Have you seen Fiennes in 'Quiz Show'? I love him in that movie too - again, because he's so knowledgeable and intelligent! He plays Shakespeare quote guessing games with his father!!! &hearts
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The only times I grokked him better was when he´s fighting and ENJOYING the challenge - like when he´s dragging himself around the deck of the Surprise, learning to walk again. That is your Spanish-Catalan hombre, as I know and like them ;)
I´m halfway through book five now, too! (and have had Mum hide the book somewhere til June, because I have to ace a hard test then and I don´t want to be distracted from studying... tee hee, shouldn´t even read Aubreyad character discussions at all!)
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Oh but come now, there can't be a personality type that fits the ENTIRE Spanish nation! I think one of the first Spanish people I knew was a girl online in a depression forum with me. :P
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