I don't know much about the game, but I don't think real-time strategy is real all that violent. I don't see people going crazy over this. I live in the area of Calvin College, so I know these people.
My prediction: There will be people who will buy it because it's Christian. There will people who won't buy who think the Rapture isn't an appropriate theme for a game. There will be everything in between.
If this creates a controversy, I doubt it'll last long. People will be more concerned with the DaVinci Code movie that's coming out this summer. A lot of people around here aren't happy about The DaVinci Code.
Re: First Post!sir_bisselMarch 6 2006, 21:38:16 UTC
I'm pretty sure most of the people around Hope would embrace it. *shrug* They were all about crying because the Passion of the Christ moved them so much.
I haven't heard anything in Kalamazoo about peoples opinions about the Davinci Code, but that may be because we're a little more liberal...ish. Or something.
Calvin Collegerayzak2000March 6 2006, 14:18:29 UTC
People from Calvin are always saying crazy stuff like this. I live and work in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and the whole school is full of whack jobs. Example, if a student is found drinking for dancing outside of campus, he can be expelled.
Last year, Geroge Dub-ya spoke at Calvin, and there were a few hundred protesters. One of the higher ups at Calvin, on the nightly news, said that people shouldn't be allowed to publicly protest in America. Although I'm sure it would be OK for him to protest a new Harry Potter book, because Jesus told him to.
As far as the game goes, I hope it's good. I think an RTS featuring avenging angels and demonic demons would be cool. However, I'm sure it will be more like Sunday Funday than Starcraft.
Re: Calvin Collegepsyco_chick32March 6 2006, 16:50:43 UTC
*nods* I have to agree. I'm from the area and it's kind of weird. As a note though, just last year, they repealed the rule about dancing. As of 2005, Christian people can dance without inviting Satan into their lives.
I've amused myself by trying out some religiously-themed first-person shooters games I could find on the net, and I really couldn't see how the alleged effects of gaming could be made any different simply by changing the subject matter. Therefore, if someone were not so positively inclined toward games for various reasons, they probably wouldn't change their stance for one game just because it promotes different ideals. The few religiously-themed first-person shooters I tried were really no different from other "murder simulators" such as Doom. In fact, a game where you run around and kill demons? They may as well have been Doom, although not nearly as fun. If those with strong religious beliefs don't like video games, I cannot see why they would support another one that's violent but religiously based.
I was also looking on at that Left Behind Games site and saw this: "It is management’s belief that LEFT BEHIND will be a catalyst for a new genre of video game entertainment; known, as stated by the Wall Street Journal, as 'God Games
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Trust me, Christians will believe anything their pastor, preacher, priest, or author will tell them. I worked at WHME, the HQ of the LeSEA christian broadcasting company for a few months in 2004. I ran camera for The Harvest Show, a daily talk show featuring racism, fear mongering, and made up bible verses. Not only did these idiots believe their own rhetoric, their viewers ate that crap up.
And behind the scenes, most every owner/talent at that station was either a drunk or a raging whore.
Christians don't think for themselves, plain and simple.
What are the odds......kurisu7885March 6 2006, 14:31:10 UTC
that our favorite comedian will completely get this game reversed, or say it has an option ot lead the forces of hell against heaven? IT would be a nice option in my opinion, but hey, if it foesn't have that, oh well, I'm not big into RTS games anyway.
Re: What are the odds......kurisu7885March 6 2006, 21:43:31 UTC
Ah, cool then, but we do know JT will try to turn it to hiw own angle and get proven wrong again. Claling the developers "wayward christians" and he'll "show them the error of their ways" or some other
Religion is the problemgodofyouallMarch 6 2006, 14:33:43 UTC
It makes me laugh that these religious types would moan and complain about this game when the so called God of the Bible makes Osama Bin Laden look like a Boy Scout. God, according to the Bible, is directly responsible for many mass-murders, rapes, pillage, plunder, slavery, child abuse and killing, not to mention the killing of unborn children. Religion throughout the years has been the #1 major cause of blood shed. IMHO Religions have caused the most harm to mankind.
Open your eyes this is just a damn game, the real life aspects of religion is a lot more scary if you ask me.
Re: Religion is the problemslyfoxxMarch 6 2006, 14:52:53 UTC
Personally, I don't see alot of people going out and killing other because religion told them to unless those people are just plain stupid and ignorant in the first place. I don't think it's fair God of the Bible and Bin Laden be compared to one another, as their major actions and ideas/beliefs are separated by several thousand years. I'd say that religion isn't the major cause of bloodshed but rather it's the hardcore fanatics who use religion to 'justiy' (used very loosely) their own actions and missinterpretations. But we're not here to debate religion... we're here for the games.
I'm happy to see that developers aren't letting the mainstream hold them back from trying new concepts. I think it could be interesting to see how this game turns out and how it is received by the gamers rather than the bigots.
Re: Religion is the problembustermanzeroMarch 6 2006, 16:24:54 UTC
In the words of Terry Jones: "Jesus said all these wonderful things like 'Love thy Neighbor,' and for the next 2000 years people were killing each other because they couldn't decide on how he said it."
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My prediction: There will be people who will buy it because it's Christian. There will people who won't buy who think the Rapture isn't an appropriate theme for a game. There will be everything in between.
If this creates a controversy, I doubt it'll last long. People will be more concerned with the DaVinci Code movie that's coming out this summer. A lot of people around here aren't happy about The DaVinci Code.
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I haven't heard anything in Kalamazoo about peoples opinions about the Davinci Code, but that may be because we're a little more liberal...ish. Or something.
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I didn't read the article, but I'm going to now. Personally, I find the idea of this game kind of creepy.
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Last year, Geroge Dub-ya spoke at Calvin, and there were a few hundred protesters. One of the higher ups at Calvin, on the nightly news, said that people shouldn't be allowed to publicly protest in America. Although I'm sure it would be OK for him to protest a new Harry Potter book, because Jesus told him to.
As far as the game goes, I hope it's good. I think an RTS featuring avenging angels and demonic demons would be cool. However, I'm sure it will be more like Sunday Funday than Starcraft.
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As a note though, just last year, they repealed the rule about dancing. As of 2005, Christian people can dance without inviting Satan into their lives.
The game sounds kind of fun, though :)
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I was also looking on at that Left Behind Games site and saw this:
"It is management’s belief that LEFT BEHIND will be a catalyst for a new genre of video game entertainment; known, as stated by the Wall Street Journal, as 'God Games ( ... )
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And behind the scenes, most every owner/talent at that station was either a drunk or a raging whore.
Christians don't think for themselves, plain and simple.
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...er...actually I believe this game DOES have that option! I'm fairly sure I read that on their site.
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Open your eyes this is just a damn game, the real life aspects of religion is a lot more scary if you ask me.
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I'm happy to see that developers aren't letting the mainstream hold them back from trying new concepts. I think it could be interesting to see how this game turns out and how it is received by the gamers rather than the bigots.
P.S. Rayzak2000, we do think for ourselves.
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