YES! I love Juliet's reaction fanatically. It's like...first, you're creepy; second, I feel sorry for you; third, I feel very sorry for you; fourth, I LOVE MY HUSBAND FOREVER.
Oh, ITA about Duncan/Veronica. That was the element of the show -- more than the death of Lily Kane, more even than her being a PI -- that made "Veronica Mars" noir. The twisted Kane family dynamics, and the fact that Duncan made love to her believing she was his sister: Whoa. Basically, fandom fell for Logan; as much as I liked the guy, Veronica/Logan never could have the same kind of resonance for the show as a whole. They were awesome -- great chemistry, great sparks -- but they could never, ever get fucked-up enough to hold the dark, molten center of VM at its best. I remember, when Duncan left, saying the show would never be the same; my friends scoffed. But that's exactly how it played out. (And the best scene after Duncan left was the one moment when we saw him again -- a murderer, now, playing with his daughter on the beach. All the noir returned for one brilliant moment
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Yes to all of this. I know perfectly well that Teddy Kane was not a great actor, and Jason Dohring was, but I kind of expected people to look beyond that at the characters, and...they didn't. At all. They were just like Logan is hot! Let's ship them! And then the writers gave them what they wanted.
But they lost so much by writing the Kane family out. They tried to head back to that, right at the very end--with Jake Kane reappearing and the gigantic, horrifying portraits of Duncan and Lilly--but it was too little, too late. I loved that Duncan had Aaron Echolls killed. Favorite scene in the whole second season finale.
And Duncan/Veronica were just a fabulously crafted and multi-layered concoction of angst, fluff and despair that Logan/Veronica could never, ever capture for me.
Seriously. You don't know how it drove me crazy, feeling like the entire WORLD was seeing something I didn't. And it was also particularly perplexing to me that I didn't find JDoh even mildly attractive? (Not freakshow ugly either, but like...kinda cute at best?)
I...kind of don't find any of the guys on Veronica Mars attractive? Like, the characters of Duncan, Weevil and Wallace all draw me to them, but the actors themselves? Meh.
As far as Jason Dohring is concerned, he looks a little bit like my brother, so...no. Though it did buy him a lot of sympathy points with my mom. :/
*I"M* the fanfic rec of the day? SO HONORED! And not to put myself down but have you ever read ndnickerson's fic? IT'S AMAZING.
Thank you for seeing them the way I do! I also feel like, in the face of all the LoVe adoration (especially in the heyday of the show), many D/V shippers tried to concentrate on the adorable, happy times to show how good they were together, but seriously the thing that makes them unbelievable and without fail on my Top 10 list every time I compile something like it, is the utter Greek tragedy of them.
And Peter and Juliet! I might have to do something with them in Yuletide this year....either offering or asking for, just so SOMETHING in the ethos of fanfiction exists for them.
YAY! D/V fic rec! Besides yours, I've only been able to find maybe one Duncan/Veronica fic I liked. (It was this story where Veronica met up with Duncan and Lilly years later, and they had sex, and he asked her to stay, but she couldn't because...something about Lilly? Lilly, his sister, not daughter. I can't really remember, and I stupidly did not bookmark it, but I thought it was really fantastic at the time.) So I am super excited to read these, thanks!
My thing about Duncan/Veronica is the multiple levels of THEM. I love that they can be fluffy and sweet, but then there are the whole barrels of INCEST, RAPE, MEG, BABY, FELONIES. There are depths forever undelved (is that a word? LJ isn't recognizing it, but I think it is; oh well) in them.
I approve your Peter/Juliet yearnings. If I weren't so terrified by the mere thought of Yuletide, I would join you in this quest.
Oh, I've never tried. Every time I've tried to enter any fic contest, or anything with a deadline, I've been seized with panic and failed to make it. Given how much I love Yuletide and get excited when the fic shows up, I choose not to have it be an experience associated with my own failure. :)
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I also love that knowing that Mark has a thing for her makes not a fig of difference to how Juliet feels for Peter.
*ships*
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But they lost so much by writing the Kane family out. They tried to head back to that, right at the very end--with Jake Kane reappearing and the gigantic, horrifying portraits of Duncan and Lilly--but it was too little, too late. I loved that Duncan had Aaron Echolls killed. Favorite scene in the whole second season finale.
And Duncan/Veronica were just a fabulously crafted and multi-layered concoction of angst, fluff and despair that Logan/Veronica could never, ever capture for me.
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Seriously. You don't know how it drove me crazy, feeling like the entire WORLD was seeing something I didn't. And it was also particularly perplexing to me that I didn't find JDoh even mildly attractive? (Not freakshow ugly either, but like...kinda cute at best?)
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As far as Jason Dohring is concerned, he looks a little bit like my brother, so...no. Though it did buy him a lot of sympathy points with my mom. :/
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Thank you for seeing them the way I do! I also feel like, in the face of all the LoVe adoration (especially in the heyday of the show), many D/V shippers tried to concentrate on the adorable, happy times to show how good they were together, but seriously the thing that makes them unbelievable and without fail on my Top 10 list every time I compile something like it, is the utter Greek tragedy of them.
And Peter and Juliet! I might have to do something with them in Yuletide this year....either offering or asking for, just so SOMETHING in the ethos of fanfiction exists for them.
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My thing about Duncan/Veronica is the multiple levels of THEM. I love that they can be fluffy and sweet, but then there are the whole barrels of INCEST, RAPE, MEG, BABY, FELONIES. There are depths forever undelved (is that a word? LJ isn't recognizing it, but I think it is; oh well) in them.
I approve your Peter/Juliet yearnings. If I weren't so terrified by the mere thought of Yuletide, I would join you in this quest.
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