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yahtzee63 September 29 2010, 22:41:22 UTC
Oh, ITA about Duncan/Veronica. That was the element of the show -- more than the death of Lily Kane, more even than her being a PI -- that made "Veronica Mars" noir. The twisted Kane family dynamics, and the fact that Duncan made love to her believing she was his sister: Whoa. Basically, fandom fell for Logan; as much as I liked the guy, Veronica/Logan never could have the same kind of resonance for the show as a whole. They were awesome -- great chemistry, great sparks -- but they could never, ever get fucked-up enough to hold the dark, molten center of VM at its best. I remember, when Duncan left, saying the show would never be the same; my friends scoffed. But that's exactly how it played out. (And the best scene after Duncan left was the one moment when we saw him again -- a murderer, now, playing with his daughter on the beach. All the noir returned for one brilliant moment.)

The guy who played Duncan really wasn't as good an actor as the guy playing Logan, but even given that, I'm surprised fandom didn't see how much of the show's tone relied on Duncan's presence in Veronica's life.

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freelancerrh September 29 2010, 22:54:18 UTC
Yes to all of this. I know perfectly well that Teddy Kane was not a great actor, and Jason Dohring was, but I kind of expected people to look beyond that at the characters, and...they didn't. At all. They were just like Logan is hot! Let's ship them! And then the writers gave them what they wanted.

But they lost so much by writing the Kane family out. They tried to head back to that, right at the very end--with Jake Kane reappearing and the gigantic, horrifying portraits of Duncan and Lilly--but it was too little, too late. I loved that Duncan had Aaron Echolls killed. Favorite scene in the whole second season finale.

And Duncan/Veronica were just a fabulously crafted and multi-layered concoction of angst, fluff and despair that Logan/Veronica could never, ever capture for me.

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leobrat September 30 2010, 21:51:30 UTC
Logan is hot! Let's ship them!

Seriously. You don't know how it drove me crazy, feeling like the entire WORLD was seeing something I didn't. And it was also particularly perplexing to me that I didn't find JDoh even mildly attractive? (Not freakshow ugly either, but like...kinda cute at best?)

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freelancerrh October 1 2010, 06:12:54 UTC
I...kind of don't find any of the guys on Veronica Mars attractive? Like, the characters of Duncan, Weevil and Wallace all draw me to them, but the actors themselves? Meh.

As far as Jason Dohring is concerned, he looks a little bit like my brother, so...no. Though it did buy him a lot of sympathy points with my mom. :/

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leobrat October 1 2010, 11:22:16 UTC
I find Francis Capra attractive in the context of this character, but probably wouldn't go for him in real life. (TBPH, I think a guy who tattooed his face would scare me.)

I think Ryan Hansen and Teddy Dunn are both 'cute' but nothing to cry over. But JDoh? Like...the very least. Just not a big deal at all.

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