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Assumptions part 8

Jan 28, 2007 19:47

Title: Assumptions
Author: fredsmith518
Beta: none!
Rating:tame
Disclaimer: Nothing owned.
Summary: So, as you do, I was wandering through http://community.livejournal.com/oc_plotbunnies/profile looking for a post, which I found btw, and happened across this comment by dogsbody01 one thing lead to ( Read more... )

assumptions

Comments 44

katwoman76 January 28 2007, 20:21:52 UTC

What a wonderful finish - including one of my favorite Ryan/Kirsten scenes from Season1. That morning in Dr. Kims office with Kirsten calling her on her bullshit, making clear that she knew exactly how everyone in Newport prejudiced Ryan and taking a stand for him while he was sitting right next to her witnessing it and with her confidence (also from the talk before in the hallway about college being something to think about for him now) Ryan being able to speak for himself as well instead of just accepting that people were right about him not being good enough.
Loved that scene.

And Kirsten not letting it slide and getting Ryan to open up here is priceless. As is her honest answer and her using her chance to say something more about her reasons for letting him stay in the first place.

Great job, my dear.

fredsmith518 January 28 2007, 20:25:08 UTC

Many thanks for this and all your positive feedback throughout this fic. It is much appreciated and very motivating.

I figure some stuff had to have changed over the summer for Kirsten to stand up for Ryan so forcefully and for him to be so on board for the whole deal also.

katwoman76 January 28 2007, 20:38:32 UTC

Remember the talk they had in the hall ( ... )

fredsmith518 January 28 2007, 20:44:10 UTC

Yes, I cheated and read a transcript. I did wonder about having her read his essay, but decided against it.

It's like once she made the decision that Ryan would stay with them she would not make things half-heartedly. good point. I forgot about Cotillion, it's the one ep, I don't have, so it slips my mind.

I like strong Kirsten.

shakespearebint January 28 2007, 21:00:49 UTC

Not really the ending I was expecting - but one that worked nonetheless

fredsmith518 January 28 2007, 21:58:49 UTC

:)
was always where this was going, thanks

beachtree January 28 2007, 22:10:12 UTC

I miss strong and maybe even perceptive Kirsten who had so much potential. You've found her! Was Dustin with her? Rosa? Kidding- maybe ( ... )

fredsmith518 January 29 2007, 18:12:24 UTC

Thank you for all your kind words, plausible weaving of canon and fic was what I wanted here, so I pleased you felt I pulled it off. Each of examples you cite fitted easily here, Kirsten on movies and wanting to watch documentaries, Kirsten being interested in Ryan's hopes and wishes and education.

I could certainly see where Ryan would have misgivings about Harbor as he voiced in canon. The tuition alone would be a staggering concept and put enormous pressure on him. He wouldn't think he was worth the cost. could be a whole seperate fic, couldn't it? Ryan reading up, library visiting, internet etc...

What made that whole sequence all the more powerful was Ryan speaking up for himself I'd forgotten how forceful he was there. Real mixture of confidence and self doubt, huh? Fascinating - obviously!

beachtree January 29 2007, 18:54:54 UTC

Of course there's ALWAYS another fic born every time! The whole issue of Ryan's self-worth and the monetary costs of his education could somehow only be justified for him because the Cohens were such strong proponents and because Seth wanted him there. At that stage especially, Ryan was certainly in more obvious "obligation" mode to Seth. He still is, but it's more on demand when Seth beckons. Then, Ryan was so insecure and struggling just to give the Cohens every possible reason to believe they should keep him in their home that he was all about the placating 24/7 ( ... )

fredsmith518 January 29 2007, 19:07:32 UTC

Marissa made him happy, sorry, I know red rag:) But he was teenage boy and did mess about with her and biking with Seth on skateboard, there was some carefree - not the bigger picture, I grant you, but I think he got 'happy' and Kirsten was being motherly, mothers wish that for their kids, healthy and happy, but of course 'happy' isn't a constant state is it? fleeting, more, ephemeral.

He must have felt so strange, not knowing what was expected, constant minefield, so the small moments of 'not thinking' must have been especially precious.

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fredsmith518 January 29 2007, 18:05:18 UTC

A one shot turned eight parter! Hehe. I can commiserate.

thanks;) and it was linear!! yay! almost no pluperfect tense

I'm glad you liked and I have appreciated your comments through each part very much, thank you.

gibasi January 28 2007, 23:46:18 UTC

First, Happy Belated Birthday!

Second, I'm glad I decided to lapse from my no fanfic regimen to read this. A lovely story from a lovely person. I'm glad that Ryan trusted Kirsten enough to tell her he was worried about school which segues nicely to the the scene with Kirsten and Dr. Kim.

fredsmith518 January 29 2007, 18:03:16 UTC

Thank you
I had a lovely birthday weekend, and had friends around for dinner this Sat. too.

I'm glad you enjoyed, putting something up fast is a nice change of pace for me and I know I like it as a reader too.

Good to see you around.