FK and Fanfiction Musings

Jun 03, 2012 21:51

You know, one of the great things about fandom is that we get to see how everyone views the same show differently. Recently, wendelah1 had a similar observation in one of the X-Files fanfiction communities. It's obvious numerous interpretations happen in all fandoms ( Read more... )

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pj1228 June 4 2012, 20:13:46 UTC
I quite agree that Nick continues to drink human blood occasionally. I doubt however, that he gets the blood bags from Natalie. After all, she's the one who keeps telling him to stay off the blood.
After 800 years, he probably has his sources (outdated blood from hospitals etc).
The only time we see her giving Nick human blood is in Night in Question in order to promote his healing (first injecting a blood bag into his stomach in the hospital and later Lacroix's bottle in the loft).

Of course every writer has their own favourable image of Nick, and writes accordingly about his feeding preferences. We cannot expect that everyone shares Lacroix's view on this issue, although he would like that. ;) That makes the diversity of factions out there.

I've wondered myself about the way Natalie is often interpreted and I found myself often disagreeing.

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foxy11814 June 4 2012, 20:43:12 UTC
I don't know. I get that Natalie wants him to stay off the blood, so it would seem quite contradictory for her to bring him blood, but the fact that Natalie knew how many bags of plasma he had for breakfast in "Blackwing" tells me it might be a possibility. According to many, it's also uncharacteristic for her to merely sit there while he's drinking three bags of blood and not try to take it from him and speak so calmly about it while discussing Marian. I doubt Nick volunteered the knowledge that he had three bags of human blood that morning. That would be uncharacteristic for him, LMBO. (I do get that the real problem is that the show itself has problems with continuity, but as fanfic writers, we try to make sense of the chaos, lol.) In my fanfic, I don't write her bringing him blood. I like the idea that she wants him to abstain no matter what. I'm just questioning if that is the only interpretation ( ... )

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pj1228 June 4 2012, 21:21:51 UTC
Grrr, LJ just ate my reply. So, here we go again.

>but the fact that Natalie knew how many bags of plasma he had for breakfast in "Blackwing" tells me it might be a possibility.<

Interestingly, I've never interpreted the scene that way that Natalie was present when he consumed his 3 bags of blood. I've always assumed that she doesn't mean that figuratively (is that the correct expression?). You know like she guessed that he had 3 bags because she knows he drinks blood for breakfast.

>We also know she gave him Schanke's blood in "Dark Knight," because I doubt she gave it through an IV when he could just drink it<

Yes, but if he had drunk Schanke's blood, he would have known that it was Schanke's. He was quite surprised, however, when he figured it out, so I assume he must have ingested it via an alternate route. Maybe he passed out when he realized that he had killed Lacroix. ;)

As to Natalie, she is often placed on a high pedestal. I don't see her in that flawless way, e.g. in Fallen Idol she cheats on Nick by giving the mentally ( ... )

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foxy11814 June 4 2012, 21:36:53 UTC
I hate when LJ eats my replies and entries, too.

As for the expression, I think you meant she doesn't mean that literally, but if that's the case why didn't she say the more accurate, "You had three cups of bovine this morning," or just say blood? She purposely said "donated," which suggests to me the writers wanted to make sure we knew Nick was still a "good vampire," because he only consumes donated blood.

And you're right about Schanke's blood. Of course at the time, I doubt the writers thought about the whole "know the person completely" back then, but as I said, we are trying to make it fit as writers.

And, yes, I was so disappointed in Nat when she went behind Nick's back in "Fallen Idol." and you're right that she's put on a pedestal and that she will do what she wants and what she thinks is right--even using Nick or more specifically, his blood without permission--despite Nick's wishes. Does that sound like someone else we know? LMBO

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jeffhardyfan722 June 5 2012, 01:08:26 UTC
Okay so this line of thought is a little to deep for my addeled brain right now, but I do believe (though I can't pinpoint any specific scenes at the moment) that Nick did drink human blood at different times during the seasons. I picture Nick as being in 'the gray area' during each season. By that I mean that He has stepped onto the path of redemption/becoming human, but he has yet to actually venture down that path and therefore still occasionally indulges in typical vampire behavior like drinking human blood, hunting, creating childer, seeking out his maker for various reasons, etc ( ... )

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foxy11814 June 5 2012, 01:28:10 UTC
Yes, you did hit on the topic, and you are so awesome, because I feel almost the same way you do!!!

I mean, I don't hate Natalie and I can stomach her, but I agree that she is somewhat cruel and hypocritical.

I love this statement:

I don't like that she sees Nick as merely some sort of addict that needs therapy, when he is more like a lion that has been locked in a cage and is slowly starving himself.

YES! I agree with this. And, most importantly, she doesn't recognize--and of course, Nick doesn't either--that she's part of the problem. Nick wouldn't have problems controlling his urges and even his melancholy if he was on a proper diet, healthy, and not starving.

I also agree with your thoughts that Nick can redeem himself as a vampire. Mortality is not all that it's cracked up to be. He thinks if he becomes human, it will solve all his problems, and even Natalie reminds him that it won't. Like we discussed with my Nick/Urs fanfic "Need," Nick needs to realize that what he is isn't as important as who he is ( ... )

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jeffhardyfan722 June 5 2012, 02:10:26 UTC
I would have liked to see Nick have the broodiness of Angel, while still seeking redemption like only Nick can, and yet have the ability to feed like Henry Fitzroy from Blood Ties.

By the way have you ever watched that show? It only had two seasons and is now off the air, BUT there are a set of books by Tanya Huff called "The Blood Books" and I think you can still buy the two seasons from amazon.

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foxy11814 June 5 2012, 02:21:35 UTC
Yes, I've seen the series. In fact, I own the entire TV series and own the entire book series, including its short stories, LOL. =)

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