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Jun 15, 2008 23:09

I was amused to see Ethan of Athos listed as an example of literary mpreg in a post I found via metafandom. The Left Hand of Darkness (which also made the list) was the closest I could have come to naming one, and even then, it's not really the same thing when the species in question is ambisexual, though it is hard to argue with the sentence, "The king was ( Read more... )

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elfwreck June 16 2008, 04:17:50 UTC
The chieri on Darkover have similar patterns to the race in Left Hand of Darkness. Still, yeah, not male while pregnant.

Alien Nation had definitely pregnant males.

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firefly124 June 16 2008, 10:24:34 UTC
I thought Alien Nation was one of the ones that had a third sex?

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shiv5468 June 16 2008, 07:34:00 UTC
I would never talk to the plod, oh no.

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firefly124 June 16 2008, 10:28:22 UTC
Seems like the safest route.

If you have a sec, could you respond to saracen77's comment below that They changed the caution so that it's something along the lines of You can remain silent, but if you do not mention something that you later rely on in court, it won't be admissible.
Not quite sure how that is worded, but you are probably damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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saracen77 June 16 2008, 09:17:49 UTC
Hmm... The police thing was interesting. I'm fairly sure we don't get the option of silence though. They changed the caution so that it's something along the lines of

You can remain silent, but if you do not mention something that you later rely on in court, it won't be admissible.

Not quite sure how that is worded, but you are probably damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Odd dream. I get some wacky ones too, usually when I have stress that I haven't screamed out before bed.

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firefly124 June 16 2008, 10:32:25 UTC
I'm fairly sure we don't get the option of silence though.

Huh. That's odd. Since shiv5468 agreed with the "don't talk" thing and she's all lawyerly, I asked her if she'd come back and have a look at your comment. Maybe it's something they try to get people to believe they don't have that option anymore?

Odd dream. I get some wacky ones too, usually when I have stress that I haven't screamed out before bed.

Odd is a definite understatement. LOL Good point on the stress. I definitely think that was a factor. We'll have to see if more show up by the time the 27th rolls around. I am *not* looking forward to having this done, but there is breast cancer in my family history, so I don't have much room to argue.

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saracen77 June 16 2008, 10:43:42 UTC
Yeah, I definitely remember them changing the caution about, oh, at least 10 years ago, cos The Bill altered it, back when I was still watching that show!

I can see what the two blokes in the video were saying though. Don't say anything, as it can be turned around. But if I read our caution right, I must give my alibi now, if I want to use it in court, and they were saying only give it in court.

I'd like to hear what Shiv has to say! Maybe it's just been worded so the lay people think they have no options, which is a bit sneaky...

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firefly124 June 16 2008, 16:07:42 UTC
But if I read our caution right, I must give my alibi now, if I want to use it in court, and they were saying only give it in court.Well, I don't think they were necessarily saying only give it in court, but only give it to your lawyer and let your lawyer work out if/when/how to use it. Courtroom drama shows aside, I don't think you're actually allowed to pull a rabit out of your hat in front of the judge. By then, the basics of the evidence and any alibis are supposed to be known, so far as I understand ( ... )

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saracen77 June 16 2008, 16:20:23 UTC
Courtroom drama shows aside

I've been watching too many daytime reruns of Perry Mason! I have no clue how this works in the real world! Heaven only knows what would happen to me if I were actually put in that position!

I also noticed the way the copper was using the word "may". Whenever a lay person says the Miranda thingy, we always say "will". "Will be used against you, lawyer will be provided" He very carefully said "may" be provided. So you could sit there for a week in silence waiting for the state appointed lawyer to maybe be appointed.

It was very interesting. Also take your point about state differences. I think that really only works in small ways here, between us and Scotland. But mostly the differences are very minor. Seems odd to think that you can do something in one state, and be punished completely differently, or not at all, in a different part of the same country.

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shiv5468 June 16 2008, 22:23:24 UTC
The new full caution is The modern form of caution is ( ... )

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