Giving multiculturalism a bad name

[erudito]

So, the Gillard Government, starting with the PM herself, is already distancing itself from a taxpayer-funded study which claimed that celebrating the centenary of ANZAC could be divisive. This shows that the Gillard Government is not suicidally stupid

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[oronoda]

Thanks for proving yet again of your own hypocrisy.

[yamamanama]

That sentence is a fuckup on so many levels.

[cutelildrow]

I don't understand why he's so desperate to read it. I mean he panned it entirely based on the blurb - which is no different from any blurb you'd see on the backs of any novel you pick up - and then constantly insist on discussing it with jordan179 *while* constantly insisting he isn't inclined at all to read it, and puts it down nonstop - from a blurb description.. Why is he trying to make it as if he's forced to read it? Frankly, we don't want him to read it, out of the entire planet of people we'd like to invite to read our stories, yours, or Aff's, or mine. He's pissed off that Aff kicked him from the forums and he can't see it because he keeps getting redirected to a ban page, because guess what? Aff actually cares about his site security, and the users' privacy - which, all the rage on privacy and security going on the internet, is a valid concern

[yamamanama]

1. I don't trust Aff enough.
2. Your politics and your schadenfreude over the death of Rachel Corrie and your callousness over the death of a 9 year old Tajik girl because you're not in Russia and she was a Muslim anyway are the reason I find you repulsive, not your Filipinoness.
3. You're the racist, you FUCK!
4. "If you tolerate this, then your children will be next" is not a threat, it's a reminder that you might end up with more than you bargained for in a world where killing 9 year old Tajik girls is acceptable, or at least tolerated. You know Australia's infested with skinheads and somehow I don't think they're willing to overlook ethnicity because they share a common enemy with you.

[jordan179]

(1) - Note that Aff is not stalking you. He would ignore your existence completely if you weren't obsessively trying to get onto his blog, where you are not wanted by the owner of the blog.

(2) - We don't care about Rachel Corrie because she signed onto an evil cause (probably imagining it to be a good cause, but people should research these things before they put their lives on the line) and then stupidly sat down in front of a BUTTONED-UP MILITARY BULLDOZER which was demolishing a house, thus getting herself killed (amusingly, not crushed by the bulldozer, but killed by falling rubble from the house). This is sort of like someone demonstrating in favor of the Nazi regime in 1943 and flinging themselves in front of a Sherman tank expecting it to stop on a dime.

(3) - Aside from the trivial logical point that there is no law of Nature mandating only one party to a conversation can be a "racist," I've noticed over the years that you are much more likely to condemn whole cultures, ethnic groups and races wholesale because you don't

[yamamanama]

Oh, puh-leese with the Nazi comparisons. I know you're only comparing the Palestinians to the Nazis because you don't like them. If anything, they're more like the Poles, because the Poles were the ones occupied by a militaristic quasi-theocratic state.

Drow, on a 9 year old Tajik girl brutally murdered by skinhead filth: Seeing as I am not Muslim... this is not a concern for me and mine.

Remember when Drow said anyone who wasn't Asian or white lacked brains, value for education, and value for hard work? Of course you do, even if you don't remember it too well, since you wrote a pretty impassioned defense of it by saying Drow also said some Asians were brainless and had no respect for hard work and education?
Yeah, I know she hates Indonesians and Malaysians too. White supremacists have no love for Slavic people, I guess that means they're not racist either.

[jordan179]

Oh, puh-leese with the Nazi comparisons. I know you're only comparing the Palestinians to the Nazis because you don't like them.

The Palestinians are anti-Semites whose official leadership actually allied with the German Nazis during World War II, and who still officially admire the Nazis. That's right, Yama, the group you sympathize with is one of the survivals of the WWII Axis.

If anything, they're more like the Poles, because the Poles were the ones occupied by a militaristic quasi-theocratic state.Actually, the analogy with the Nazis continues here: after defeat in World War II the Germans were occupied by the Allies and Soviets. Israel is a liberal democracy, like the Western Allies, not a "quasi-theocratic" state

[yamamanama]

Germany should never have existed; the 20th century is proof of that.

[jordan179]

There is nothing inherent about Germany qua Germany, either as a nation or a state, which rendered the World Wars inevitable. Note too that from the whole period after 1945, the impact of Germany on the rest of the world was almost wholly positive.

Indeed, had Napoleon III been more competent, or Wilhelm II's older brother lived, our view of Germany as a nation might have far more to do with brilliant scientists, erudite scholars, skilled engineeers, life-saving doctors and titanic industrialists than with goose-stepping storm troopers. Heck, even after World War One, had Germany found saner leadership (quite possible, as Hitler was a rather random-event dependent person), we might today be praising the role Germany played in holding back the expansionist designs of the monster Stalin and saving Western Europe, rather than blaming her for shattering the Peace of Versailles.

and because it must be in it's own post for emphasis:

[cutelildrow]

If, we are to take yama at his word, and that he's not stalking me or my friends, then the only other explanation for his obsessive behavior is that he is my biggest, most ardent fan and admirer, which is the only other explanation for his constantly visiting my friends' blogs, his complete and utter despair at not being able to view/sign up for/ Aff's site, and read my friends' works (Actually, Yama if you really want to read Aff's Diary, you can buy it - it ships worldwide!) and his constant violation of user bans. That he so hungers for my words and presence says that I alone bring light and purpose to his life... and while flattering, I am quite spoken for already. Really, that he spends so much time of his day, desperately trying to view my work and Mary's, so obsessively, and upset that he cannot! is a rather creepy declaration of endless devotion and love for what I do. That would be the only other reason why he would WANT to follow me around all over the vast sea of Information that is the Internet, and why he spends so much

Re: and because it must be in it's own post for emphasis:

[jordan179]

Yama wuvs you, but it is -- sadly -- an unrequited wuv. Oh the tragedy! (*flings hand up in sympathetic despair*) I feel like singing sad arias about it! :D