Giving multiculturalism a bad name

Mar 26, 2012 18:49

So, the Gillard Government, starting with the PM herself, is already distancing itself from a taxpayer-funded study which claimed that celebrating the centenary of ANZAC could be divisive. This shows that the Gillard Government is not suicidally stupid ( Read more... )

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jordan179 April 5 2012, 15:18:23 UTC
Oh, puh-leese with the Nazi comparisons. I know you're only comparing the Palestinians to the Nazis because you don't like them.

The Palestinians are anti-Semites whose official leadership actually allied with the German Nazis during World War II, and who still officially admire the Nazis. That's right, Yama, the group you sympathize with is one of the survivals of the WWII Axis.

If anything, they're more like the Poles, because the Poles were the ones occupied by a militaristic quasi-theocratic state.

Actually, the analogy with the Nazis continues here: after defeat in World War II the Germans were occupied by the Allies and Soviets. Israel is a liberal democracy, like the Western Allies, not a "quasi-theocratic" state.

The analogy ends here, because the West Germans (the ones fortunate enough to be occupied by liberal democracies) were sane enough to realize that they had been defeated and that they had to appease their conquerors and focus on building up something new and good rather than carying on the fight for something old and evil if they wanted a happy future. By contrast, the Palestinian Arabs are engaged in a hopeless quest to regain something they NEVER HAD (political independence), which will inevitably lead either to their expulsion by Israel or their subordination to other victorious Arab groups.

Drow, on a 9 year old Tajik girl brutally murdered by skinhead filth: Seeing as I am not Muslim... this is not a concern for me and mine.

I have absolutely no idea about what you are talking: I have never seen the original exchange, and I do not trust your precis of it.

Remember when Drow said anyone who wasn't Asian or white lacked brains, value for education, and value for hard work?

No, because that is neither what she said, nor what she believes. I read her original statements there, and you are seriously (and I would guess intentionally) misquoting her.

I do remember when you claimed that neither Australia, nor France nor Germany had any culture worth admiring, because you said it right on this thread. In almost exactly those words.

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yamamanama April 5 2012, 17:01:31 UTC
Germany should never have existed; the 20th century is proof of that.

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jordan179 April 5 2012, 17:20:46 UTC
There is nothing inherent about Germany qua Germany, either as a nation or a state, which rendered the World Wars inevitable. Note too that from the whole period after 1945, the impact of Germany on the rest of the world was almost wholly positive.

Indeed, had Napoleon III been more competent, or Wilhelm II's older brother lived, our view of Germany as a nation might have far more to do with brilliant scientists, erudite scholars, skilled engineeers, life-saving doctors and titanic industrialists than with goose-stepping storm troopers. Heck, even after World War One, had Germany found saner leadership (quite possible, as Hitler was a rather random-event dependent person), we might today be praising the role Germany played in holding back the expansionist designs of the monster Stalin and saving Western Europe, rather than blaming her for shattering the Peace of Versailles.

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